Electric car questions

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by Scott R

At my building there is a rule against it, and that’s in Boulder.

There you go. It is against the rules in that parking lot.

[Scott R]

Originally Posted by Tobra

There you go

In Washington park in Denver at my condo it’s the same rule. Charging spaces are for EV’s.

[mepstein]

Our school has free charging. We live there so I’m considering an electric car.

[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by Scott R

In Washington park in Denver at my condo it’s the same rule. Charging spaces are for EV’s.

Agree:

https://bouldercolorado.gov/public-works/electric-vehicles-and-charging-stations

Except EVs are defined by that website in their appendix (page 26) as:

Electric Vehicle (EV)—an electric vehicle uses a battery to store energy that powers the motor. Types of electric vehicles include BEV and PHEV

https://beta.bouldercolorado.gov/sites/default/files/2021-01/coloradoevplan2020-final.pdf

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Scott R

You don’t need a charging station, you have one on board. Charging spaces are for cars that rely only on batteries.

No. Volts have no way of charging a depleted battery. They must be plugged in to charge the battery.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Scott R

Against plug in hybrids, including volts.

That’s an odd rule. I wonder what the point is. The web site Steve posted states that Boulder is dedicated to electric vehicle usage, yet forbids PHEVs from charging their batteries.

[Steve Carlton]

No- they include PHEVs as EVs in their definition. It seems like Boulder is trying to be green. Preventing a Volt from burning gas to drive should qualify it to be charged at a station.

[Scott R]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

No. Volts have no way of charging a depleted battery. They must be plugged in to charge the battery.

If the battery is dead you can still drive it though.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Scott R

If the battery is dead you can still drive it though.

If their goal is promote electric car usage it seems counterproductive to tell PHEV owners to go burn gasoline.

[Steve Carlton]

Scott- does Boulder specifically say you can't charge a PHEV or are you interpreting EV as meaning just BEV?

[Scott R]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

Scott- does Boulder specifically say you can't charge a PHEV or are you interpreting EV as meaning just BEV?

I don’t know, at my building it says no PHEV charging. We only have six spaces.

[Aerkuld]

I guess the problem is with the EV drivers who HAVE to be able to charge, and the PHEV drivers who plug in, then leave the car in the parking spot all day even though their vehicle is charged in 45 minutes. Just a guess.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by Aerkuld

I guess the problem is with the EV drivers who HAVE to be able to charge, and the PHEV drivers who plug in, then leave the car in the parking spot all day even though their vehicle is charged in 45 minutes. Just a guess.

Irresponsible and discourteous behavior isn’t exclusive to PHVE drivers. If the problem is people leaving fully charged cars in a charging station then they should address the problem, not ban PHEVs.

[Steve Carlton]

It sounds like the decision on only charge BEVs at Scott's building was a choice made by the private owners, and that should be their prerogative. I can understand BEVs are a higher priority, as they cannot operate with depleted batteries. I wonder how many units share the 6 charger spaces.

It doesn't sound like the city of Boulder disallows the charging of PHEVs in public. I think there's been some generalization going on from one building to an entire city, as well as some confusion as to whether a PHEV is an EV. A PHEV is a subset of the EVs.

[RNajarian]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

Irresponsible and discourteous behavior isn’t exclusive to PHVE drivers. If the problem is people leaving fully charged cars in a charging station then they should address the problem, not ban PHEVs.

Pre-COVID my family was visiting a Hershey PA tourist attraction. Parking was scarce. Right up front near the entrance were 6 Tesla supercharging stations. Three Tesla’s were parked in these reserved parking spots, however only one of the cars was plugged in.

The other two drivers seemed to exhibit this same irresponsible and discourteous behavior. No it is not exclusive to PHVE drivers.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by Scott R

In Washington park in Denver at my condo it’s the same rule. Charging spaces are for EV’s.

Originally Posted by Scott R

I don’t know, at my building it says no PHEV charging. We only have six spaces.

So in other words, just exactly what I said