To the OP,
You're a better person than I am.

That's neither frugal or cheap, sounds like he is 'sponging' off your kindness

I smile and tearing in my eye a little as I read this. My sister's influenced by her cheap Canadian husband and now think like him. Fooking cheap, never pays for anything, dinner, or bring anything when we get together at my mother's. Dad used to ride her ass about it for a bit when he was alive. They make great money.

My friend's son, a chemical engineering, moved back home after college with his new wife and a new job with the Water and power. Makes 90k starting. My friend Cindy, complains about how they do not contribute to any of the house work, pays for none of the food, and no real plans to move out waiting for housing to drop so they can buy a home. They will be there for another 5 years.

I don't think its a matter of being cheap? Some people just don't know any better and takes advantages of any situation. More selfish then cheap if you ask me.

I loved my parents with all my heart, and they were wonderful parents. One of best gifts was to be born to loving great parents.

That being said, there is no way in hell I would have ever wanted to move back in with them after I left home. I worked two jobs and ate a lot of beans, rice and potato soup to afford my own place. I never spent a night at my parents house from the day I left. I visited often since they lived just a few miles from me, but move back, no way.

To clarify: I am not married to Look's sister.

Start printing adds for 1 bedroom apartments and leave them by the fridge.

It's a combination of 2 things. When kids are coming up, they often think of their parents stuff and money as their own, like they are entitled to any/all of it. With some people, that thinking is harder to break than others (whether the person changes the way they think on their own or has to be taught).

And, it's at least somewhat on the parents (not throwing stones) to make it clear, and spell things out and "help" the young'uns learn if they don't realize on their own.

Our son was around too long, and when he was younger, thought that anything that was ours was his and anything that was his, was his. He knows better now, and it took us a while to realize that we had to help him understand. So I'm not coming from a holier than thou place. I've BTDT. Fortunately, neither of our kids are there any more.

He's a 30 yr old dickhead and you are allowing him to "use" you. One of the two can be fixed however ;)...

..."and out the door he went" - G. Thorogood

Turn the circuit breaker off feeding electricity to their bedroom, charge them $ if they want it on.

i'd start putting price tags on things in the fridge. and charge daily for the new wifi password.

You are an enabler.
Not doing them (or yourself) any favor.

i'm sure he is a delightful young man.


that wouldnt fly if i pulled that on my MIL. i actually did move in with them for several months while i shopped for a house. i ended up painting the interior and installing a new lawn (with sprinklers) in the front.

i didnt charge my wife rent when i bought the house. hahhaha..

does he put his name on food items he bought?

his crime was announcing he had the food voucher. he should have just come home with the BBQ meal and said nothing more about it. then paying the $150 later for grocerys may or may not happen, upon disussion with his wife. dunno.

My parents moved twice when I was away and I found them...finally to get rid of me when I ws 35 they said we will buy you a house just keep it under 2M...I said do I have to? They said yes we will even help you find one.

My Dad's 1st coz MAX on his Dad's side had a MA in Math, was a teacher, was gay, looked like Yul Brenner, moved to Inglewood, CA (C 1960) because he could live the life..did didn't get tenure so he moved back to MA. Max liked to travel where he put down each and every expense in his little black book. My Grandfather told me that when Max stayed with him in Detroit on his way back to MA he put "FREE" in his little black book of expenses..Max took photos of where ever he went.. it was always here I am in front of the Eiffel Tower, here I am in from of Buckingham Palace...here I am in front of the Grand Canyon etc. Max also bought 300K in 30 year US Treasuries paying 16% in 1980.


My Dad was cheap..as in how cheap? He used Listerine Bottle caps for the window crank knobs on his Porsche...

the guy is a weasel. you are enabling, however - sometimes you have no real choice, family and all ....
he's still a weasel.

NOBODY wants to see their old man nekkid, much less their FIL. They'd be looking for their own place by this weekend :D

ROFLMAO http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/puke.gif

Don't blame them for this situation...it's all on you & your wife. They've seen how easily they can manipulate you, and you just continue to lay down and take it.

Don't be a doormat. Set some boundaries. Determine a fair monthly payment for room and board, and if they get offended, show 'em the door. You're enabling their behavior...stop complaining and do something about it!

^ Don’t think I have not threatened my kids with that…..

Stop enabling that tool bag and kick them to the curb. When I turned 18 my dad gave me three choices:

College
The Military
Get the hell out of my house

I did option 1 and came back for breaks etc but have never moved back in with them. Hell, they are 30, time to GTFO.

This is MY kitchen:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1624995180.jpg


Come sit with me on MY couch:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1624995180.jpg

Problem solved. I told my wife I'm paying the same rent as them until she boots them out.

What really pisses me off isn't the money. It's the entitlement and the general laziness. A big house with property and a pool is a lot of work.

They are both in for a rude awakening. They have no idea how much joy I will take in it.