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rfuerst911sc 07-19-2021 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by upsscott (Post 11395999)
My wife and I sacrificed financially big time so she could stay home with our boys until they were out of high school. Best thing we ever did. I have two successful and responsible sons and I give my wife 99% of the credit. Parenting first.

On the flip side we have two adult sons and my wife and I both had careers . The additional $$$ allowed us to do some family activities we couldn't afford otherwise . So both paths can be successful . Our two boys are contributing members of society .

Tervuren 07-19-2021 03:57 AM

Mebbee some one here has an idea of what percentage of Americans are employed vs run their own business over time.

Life changes when you have skin in the game.

URY914 07-19-2021 04:58 AM

I think the media (left or right) over play the "bad" side of our current culture. The media is in this for money, people seem to sometimes forget that. They want you to click on whatever they throw out there and the bad stuff get clicks.

Who wants to read about all the good stuff being done in the world these days? Show us the crazy stuff.

There are plenty of good things going on now and I don't believe the culture is steadily going in the crapper. It depends on where you look and want you want to believe.

Our parents used to say the same things but we (for the most part) turned out OK and we raised good kids.

Some of the reasons being thrown out in the posts are just hogwash. They are generalizations with no proof or fact.

speeder 07-19-2021 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter74 (Post 11394964)
Oh, FFS. People have been making literally exactly this complaint for thousands of years. There were people just like the OP saying the same thing in Latin in Ancient Rome.

What hasn't changed and never will is that stupid people always misrepresent the past and want to rewrite history to claim that people are different now from what they were. It's the root of the whole MAGA movement...that there was some mythical time, only 40 or 50 years ago, when people were just better, darn it. :rolleyes:

It's a lie, it's always been a lie and it always will be. It's a lie that serves a purpose though. It's not innocent. It's an indictment of a changing population by mediocre, old dudes who have never really quite understood the world so they made up their own history. In 50 years from now, there will be some liar on some message board telling everyone about how much better people were back in 2021.

Stupidity is the enemy in this world, not lack of manners or some other made up BS. Don't get your education from schithouse walls or car forums.

1990C4S 07-19-2021 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11396373)
What hasn't changed and never will is that stupid people always misrepresent the past and want to rewrite history to claim that people are different now from what they were. It's the root of the whole MAGA movement...that there was some mythical time, only 40 or 50 years ago, when people were just better, darn it. :rolleyes:

It's a lie, it's always been a lie and it always will be. It's a lie that serves a purpose though. It's not innocent. It's an indictment of a changing population by mediocre, old dudes who have never really quite understood the world so they made up their own history. In 50 years from now, there will be some liar on some message board telling everyone about how much better people were back in 2021.

Stupidity is the enemy in this world, not lack of manners or some other made up BS. Don't get your education from schithouse walls or car forums.

I was going to agree with you, but someone very knowledgeable just pointed out that you're nothing more than a useful idiot. So there's that.

It seems odd to me, as an outsider, that people can't see the deep divisions caused by politics in America. It permeates everything online, and not in a good way.

There's a lot of hate out there.

vash 07-19-2021 07:01 AM

hahahhaha..

you just gotta laugh. sugarW's comment on a thread called "what wrong with our culture?"!!! hahhaha.. he comes on and drops that...it is literally what is wrong with out culture!! i love it.

speeder 07-19-2021 07:09 AM

I thought it was hilarious. ^^^

speeder 07-19-2021 07:12 AM

"There are two kinds of people in the world...people who think that there are two kinds of people and those who do not..." :rolleyes:

There have always been idiots on barstools doling-out free advice and philosophy. Now they are on the internet.

island911 07-19-2021 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11396373)
What hasn't changed and never will is that stupid people always misrepresent the past and want to rewrite history to claim that people are different now from what they were. It's the root of the whole MAGA movement...that there was some mythical time, only 40 or 50 years ago, when people were just better, darn it. :rolleyes:

It's a lie, it's always been a lie and it always will be. It's a lie that serves a purpose though. It's not innocent. It's an indictmen...

Yes yes... we all get the joke; the older I get the better I was. But your LIE HERE is that any positives and/or negatives of the past are binary in existence. That is, they were the worst of time, they were the best of times. All has good and bad. For example, you might believe that having the US govt shutting down the 1st and second amendments is the BEST. Others look to a time when free speech was not shuttered by goons in the govt. ]

This thread asks about the negatives of our current culture. Our current culture has grown some warts. Warts that were not there in the past. Sure, different warts were. Some even beotch today endlessly about warts of the past... demand "reparations" ... yeah, how about focusing on not making more problems.

BTW, MAGA movement foundation? :rolleyes: TDS much?

Shaun @ Tru6 07-19-2021 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11396461)
I was going to agree with you, but someone very knowledgeable just pointed out that you're nothing more than a useful idiot. So there's that.

It seems odd to me, as an outsider, that people can't see the deep divisions caused by politics in America. It permeates everything online, and not in a good way.

There's a lot of hate out there.

I coined the term Hatestream Media 15 years ago. Media has monetized hate in ways never seen before creating communities built around hate and fear in the U.S. I can't imagine anything more anti-American.

Who knew the 1st Amendment would be America's death sentence.

island911 07-19-2021 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11396484)
"There are two kinds of people in the world...people who think that there are two kinds of people and those who do not..." :rolleyes:

There have always been idiots on barstools doling-out free advice and philosophy. Now they are on the internet.

But not you, eh? :D

speeder 07-19-2021 07:42 AM

Well, I'm here arguing with you, so that doesn't speak well for my brilliance. :cool:


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john70t 07-19-2021 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11394731)
I'd like to know that as well. Looking the word up doesn't help because if you follow the definition to the letter, we are multiple cultures.

Cross culture respect has always been in short supply.

Agreed.

Multiculturalism..in limited amounts..can bring the best parts of the world to any area. I've had the best French pastries and Indian curry in Japan for instance. Technology from the USA has benefited everyone, everywhere. Learning a new thing from those who do it best has usually been beneficial.

The problems occur when the newer sub-groups decide to become dominant and disrupt the whole in their own self-interest. I will leave it at that.

There are basic requirements for multiculturalism to work at all. Almost all cultures have made simple rules which work for their societies, such as peaceful co-existence, not destroying everything around ones self, adapting to and at least respecting the traditions of the host nation at least partially, etc. Change happens and different cultures take the lead, but the way it happens is the primary determinant on the entire continued success of the locale. There are too many examples in history of this not happening and entire societies disappearing forever.

thor66 07-19-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 11395859)
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The Bazerly Hills Hillbillys

thor66 07-19-2021 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11396493)
Yes yes... we all get the joke; the older I get the better I was. But your LIE HERE is that any positives and/or negatives of the past are binary in existence. That is, they were the worst of time, they were the best of times. All has good and bad. For example, you might believe that having the US govt shutting down the 1st and second amendments is the BEST. Others look to a time when free speech was not shuttered by goons in the govt. ]

This thread asks about the negatives of our current culture. Our current culture has grown some warts. Warts that were not there in the past. Sure, different warts were. Some even beotch today endlessly about warts of the past... demand "reparations" ... yeah, how about focusing on not making more problems.

BTW, MAGA movement foundation? :rolleyes: TDS much?

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