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Rikao4 08-11-2021 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11420539)
Do other countries have the same amount of conspiracy theory wingnuts as the U.S.? It seems like a fad, like the pet rock, but it's really the destruction of our republic.

no theories needed.
we see them on I-35 N underpasses all day long..
so while a Delta variant spewing Van isn't cruising about in Florida or Texas..
there sure are a scheisse load of sick folks coming across the river...
every day and more on Sunday..
the Walking Covid's..
that's no theory..
that is a fact..


Rika

1990C4S 08-11-2021 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Freddy 944 (Post 11418128)
Vacc dont work, this is a nightmare we are living in....

You continue to post this 'fact', you also claim that it 'gave you shingles'. Should we take your word for it, even in the face of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary?

Can you post something to back up your unfounded statements? Otherwise my response is the same as yours in another thread: 'lol'.

group911@aol.co 08-11-2021 05:49 AM

Walking across the river to Florida?
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Originally Posted by Rikao4 (Post 11420615)
no theories needed.
we see them on I-35 N underpasses all day long..
so while a Delta variant spewing Van isn't cruising about in Florida or Texas..
there sure are a scheisse load of sick folks coming across the river...
every day and more on Sunday..
the Walking Covid's..
that's no theory..
that is a fact..


Rika


Rikao4 08-11-2021 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by group911@aol.co (Post 11420632)
Walking across the river to Florida?

we'll let me help ya..
I'm in Texas...
so yes there is a River..
you can see them coming across in droves..
on the Tele all day long if you want..
as for getting them into Florida and other states..
our very own Airforce has already admitted to this..
as they ran out of Buses to do so..
and for just grins..
when interviewed..
we're ya headed..
Florida was a popular choice..

Rika

group911@aol.co 08-11-2021 06:09 AM

Well, of Qourse it was.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikao4 (Post 11420649)
we'll let me help ya..
I'm in Texas...
so yes there is a River..
you can see them coming across in droves..
on the Tele all day long if you want..
as for getting them into Florida and other states..
our very own Airforce has already admitted to this..
as they ran out of Buses to do so..
and for just grins..
when interviewed..
we're ya headed..
Florida was a popular choice..

Rika


javadog 08-11-2021 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11420619)
You continue to post this 'fact', you also claim that it 'gave you shingles'. Should we take your word for it, even in the face of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary?

Can you post something to back up your unfounded statements? Otherwise my response is the same as yours in another thread: 'lol'.

There is some correlation between the two, it would seem, but no causation has been established. I know of people that had a bout of Covid, then that was followed up by a bout of shingles. I think researchers are starting to look at it, to see what connection might be there, if any.

Perhaps the COVID virus affects the immune system in a way that weakens the ability to keep the shingles virus at bay.

Give them time, they’ll figure it out.

pmax 08-11-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11420619)
You continue to post this 'fact', you also claim that it 'gave you shingles'. Should we take your word for it, even in the face of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary?

Can you post something to back up your unfounded statements? Otherwise my response is the same as yours in another thread: 'lol'.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1628700886.jpg

At that level of effectiveness, these are no longer vaccines.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.06.21261707v2

Also means a lot more of the vaccinated are walking around infected spreading the virus that we thought was the case.

gordner 08-11-2021 09:02 AM

That supports the vax working.

Why not circle in red the part that says "Both vaccines were highly effective during this study period..."

1990C4S 08-11-2021 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 11420959)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1628700886.jpg

At that level of effectiveness, these are no longer vaccines.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.06.21261707v2

Also means a lot more of the vaccinated are walking around infected spreading the virus that we thought was the case.

You are quoting numbers related to 'effectiveness against infection'. The vast vast majority of people who are sick or hospitalized are NOT vaccinated. How do you explain those numbers?

But the vaccine 'doesn't work'. Okay, got it.

1990C4S 08-11-2021 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11420663)
There is some correlation between the two, it would seem, but no causation has been established. I know of people that had a bout of Covid, then that was followed up by a bout of shingles. I think researchers are starting to look at it, to see what connection might be there, if any.

Perhaps the COVID virus affects the immune system in a way that weakens the ability to keep the shingles virus at bay.

Give them time, they’ll figure it out.

Perhaps a lot of things. Zero evidence that the Covid vaccine gave anyone shingles. Possible? Yes. A statement of fact? No. So word it that way.

People get shingles all the time. Correlating it to a vaccine isn't done by speculation.

I stubbed my toe a week after I got the vaccine, the cause of the injury is clear to me.

Arizona_928 08-11-2021 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11420978)
You are quoting numbers related to 'effectiveness against infection'. The vast vast majority of people who are sick or hospitalized are NOT vaccinated. How do you explain those numbers?

But the vaccine 'doesn't work'. Okay, got it.

Small population over numbers. so they get published to scare the herd into doing something/going into a direction that they want.


propaganda.....

pmax 08-11-2021 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11420978)
You are quoting numbers related to 'effectiveness against infection'. The vast vast majority of people who are sick or hospitalized are NOT vaccinated. How do you explain those numbers?

But the vaccine 'doesn't work'. Okay, got it.

That’s where the second sentence in my previous reply comes into play, did you miss it ?

The last thing you wanna be is a walking COVID spreader.

Tobra 08-11-2021 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11420978)
You are quoting numbers related to 'effectiveness against infection'. The vast vast majority of people who are sick or hospitalized are NOT vaccinated. How do you explain those numbers?

But the vaccine 'doesn't work'. Okay, got it.

Look at the experience in countries where cases were low to the point of being non existent, they started the jab, cases and deaths skyrocket. Taiwan and Fiji are good examples of this

Sooner or later 08-11-2021 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 11421078)
Look at the experience in countries where cases were low to the point of being non existent, they started the jab, cases and deaths skyrocket. Taiwan and Fiji are good examples of this

Taiwan has 2.3% of it's population vaccinated. Fiji at 20.1%.

They avoided the earlier rounds so no one has any natural immunity. Delta is rolling through them.

mattdavis11 08-11-2021 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11421149)
They avoided the earlier rounds so no one has any natural immunity. Delta is rolling through them.

How the fuch do you know that?

gordner 08-11-2021 10:54 AM

Huh, that almost makes it seem like they are having issues because they are not vaccinated. Must be more to it, if we look harder, I am sure the vaccine is to blame.....

Sooner or later 08-11-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mattdavis11 (Post 11421157)
How the fuch do you know that?

They had a tiny amount of cases and deaths. Look at the data. They are islands.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1628708457.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1628708474.jpg

mattdavis11 08-11-2021 11:03 AM

Ok. Tell me how you would know I had COVID had I never been tested? If I had been asymptomatic, I would not have known.

gordner 08-11-2021 11:05 AM

In any significant numbers, you will know from hospitalizations…

mattdavis11 08-11-2021 11:26 AM

Explain their spike now.


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