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Tobra 08-03-2021 09:55 AM

What should consequences be for those that decline the vax?
 
For whatever reason you don't get the vax, what should be the consequences?

Looks like 42% okay with mandatory jab, 57% against in other poll.

stomachmonkey 08-03-2021 10:01 AM

Abide by the decisions of businesses, institutions, who have elected to impose restrictions on access to or use of services.

gordner 08-03-2021 10:03 AM

exactly, live with whatever restrictions that decision garners.

Likely not ever to travel internationally again to start with.

3rd_gear_Ted 08-03-2021 10:05 AM

2nd tier medical care based upon availability with a maximum fund cap .

masraum 08-03-2021 10:11 AM

Nothing forced. Consequences are that they might get sick.

If you are concerned about getting sick, vaccinated or not, you can continue to distance and wear a mask.

Arizona_928 08-03-2021 10:12 AM

I wonder if this how Germans felt in the Weimar...

masraum 08-03-2021 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted (Post 11411441)
2nd tier medical care based upon availability with a maximum fund cap .

Actually, that's pretty good. Maybe not intentionally worse care, but certainly, best effort care, in other words, if 2 folks come in and one is infected with covid but not vaccinated, then they have to wait until the other person has been cared for.

Sooner or later 08-03-2021 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11411430)
Abide by the decisions of businesses, institutions, who have elected to impose restrictions on access to or use of services.

Pretty much.

Arizona_928 08-03-2021 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11411447)
Nothing forced. Consequences are that they might get sick.

If you are concerned about getting sick, vaccinated or not, you can continue to distance and wear a mask.

Exactly. Same with smoking or drinking. One accepts the consequences. Freedom to live one's life how they want to.

Sooner or later 08-03-2021 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11411454)
Actually, that's pretty good. Maybe not intentionally worse care, but certainly, best effort care, in other words, if 2 folks come in and one is infected with covid but not vaccinated, then they have to wait until the other person has been cared for.

No. First in, first served unless one has more severe symptoms. Then you go with the sickest.

Shaun @ Tru6 08-03-2021 10:23 AM

There are some good ideas posted so far, and some not so good. When positing a course of action, consider you may be creating a precedent, which can and will be used in the future for better or worse. How your course of action may be used in future scenarios must be considered with great care.

stomachmonkey pretty much nailed it.

stevej37 08-03-2021 10:32 AM

Where is the 'Old Sparky' choice?

Rikao4 08-03-2021 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 11411450)
I wonder if this how Germans felt in the Weimar...

depends on which side your looking from..


Rika

911 Rod 08-03-2021 10:50 AM

Maybe a national vote with these questions?

KFC911 08-03-2021 11:04 AM

I think they should be asked to post in PARF ... but if they chose not to, then what :D?


We have had ZERO mandatory lockdowns in this country ... and now another (BS)ARF thread...

HRC is coming to personally take yer guns boyz .... and then give you a vaccine while Biden holds you down on the table! Is that the narrative now?

Puleeze....

wilnj 08-03-2021 11:06 AM

And for my wife who can’t get it?

Arizona_928 08-03-2021 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilnj (Post 11411580)
And for my wife who can’t get it?

Covid gulag....

drcoastline 08-03-2021 11:09 AM

The consequences should be exactly the same as those who do not get a flu shot or those who have unprotected sex.

wilnj 08-03-2021 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 11411581)
Covid gulag....


Probably what it will come to. What’s difficult to understand is that I am vaccinated and will have unfettered access even though I can still contract and transmit the virus just like my wife. She will be locked out even though she is just as likely to contract and transmit the virus, the difference being she is at greater risk to herself if she does contract it.

jyl 08-03-2021 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilnj (Post 11411586)
Probably what it will come to. What’s difficult to understand is that I am vaccinated and will have unfettered access even though I can still contract and transmit the virus just like my wife. She will be locked out even though she is just as likely to contract and transmit the virus, the difference being she is at greater risk to herself if she does contract it.

You "can" get Covid and she "can" get Covid, but you're about 1/10th as likely to get Covid as she is, and if you do, you are likely to be infectious to others for a shorter period of time - hence, less likely to transmit.

stevej37 08-03-2021 11:29 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1628018978.jpg

stomachmonkey 08-03-2021 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 11411416)
For whatever reason you don't get the vax, what should be the consequences?

Looks like 42% okay with mandatory jab, 57% against in other poll.

IIRC the other poll was binary, yes / no.

I voted for mandatory there due to the confines of the options.

It did not allow for nuance like unvaccinated but not by choice.

I'm reluctant to agree with the imposition of punitive actions for those who are unable to avail themselves of the choice, but that was not what was asked.

Bob Kontak 08-03-2021 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11411615)

Ouch.

I don't see a wet sponge. That makes it inhumane.

Is that Maple? Nice finish.

herr_oberst 08-03-2021 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11411630)
Ouch.

I don't see a wet sponge. That makes it inhumane.

Is that Maple? Nice finish.

I think that's ash or white oak, with a nice honey-maple stain...linseed oil will also give that color.

stevej37 08-03-2021 11:47 AM

^^^ just think of the insurance savings.

Bob Kontak 08-03-2021 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11411639)
I think that's ash or white oak.

Soothing, actually.

Bob Kontak 08-03-2021 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11411640)
^^^ just think of the insurance savings.

And the change of perspective.

stevej37 08-03-2021 11:53 AM

The plug-in for the chair doesn't look osha approved.

Arizona_928 08-03-2021 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilnj (Post 11411586)
Probably what it will come to. What’s difficult to understand is that I am vaccinated and will have unfettered access even though I can still contract and transmit the virus just like my wife. She will be locked out even though she is just as likely to contract and transmit the virus, the difference being she is at greater risk to herself if she does contract it.

The far right guys thought the covid Vax will kill you. Not that it was an attack to kill them! /s

It's full of hypocrisy.

javadog 08-03-2021 11:56 AM

This is America. There should be no consequence for failing to get the vaccine. It’s not the governments role to force such a flawed product onto the public.

If businesses choose to ostracize unvaccinated people, I hope that bites them firmly in the ass, just like it generally does when they take some idiotic, leftist point of view.

pwd72s 08-03-2021 11:57 AM

Public execution. Definitely the solution.

wilnj 08-03-2021 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11411600)
You "can" get Covid and she "can" get Covid, but you're about 1/10th as likely to get Covid as she is, and if you do, you are likely to be infectious to others for a shorter period of time - hence, less likely to transmit.


You’re basing that on what? If I’m not symptomatic I’m still able to transmit the virus, the CDC only says less so.

But my question remains unanswered. What do we do about people who don’t have a choice and cannot get vaccinated.

Arizona_928 08-03-2021 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 11411659)
Public execution. Definitely the solution.

Late night infomercial:
Where you or a family member publicly executed/ botched executed due to refusal to take the covid vaccine. Call now as you may be entitled to 40 acres and a mule!


/s

Rikao4 08-03-2021 12:03 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1628020882.jpg

no shortage of drivers..
or Camp Cmdr.'s it seems..

Rika

stevej37 08-03-2021 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 11411659)
Public execution. Definitely the solution.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat3.gif

Arizona_928 08-03-2021 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilnj (Post 11411662)

But my question remains unanswered. What do we do about people who don’t have a choice and cannot get vaccinated.

Covid gulag. I mean NY nursing home. Just catch the virus and die.

Rikao4 08-03-2021 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 11411659)
Public execution. Definitely the solution.

let's really be mean..
and give them the shot first..

Rika

Bob Kontak 08-03-2021 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikao4 (Post 11411676)
let's really be mean..
and give them the shot first..

Rika

BAM!

Outstanding!

stevej37 08-03-2021 12:09 PM

PPV. would be unreal!!!!

porsche tech 08-03-2021 12:13 PM

Think all the pro abortion women will be upset when told they have no choice about being vaccinated? Their mantra: “my body, my choice”. Remember that one?


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