Vaccines are moving the needle...

[javadog]

Originally Posted by pmax

Here's a case in point where patients are advised they can't get the proven antibody treatment unless they are "at high risk for getting a severe infection".



Why are these still in short supply ?

I saw one woman the other day that said you couldn’t get treated if you were a white person. Guess what color she was….

[pmax]

Originally Posted by javadog

I saw one woman the other day that said you couldn’t get treated if you were a white person. Guess what color she was….

You referring to this.

Apparently, it's official policy according to this page.

[javadog]

That list does not exclude white people. It gives people of color and advantage, but that’s it.

I think her interpretation was slightly different.

[island911]

Excellent clean-up Z. I know this thread was mucked up.

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

I had the J&J in March/April of this year. Sounds like it's wide open for the booster.

Which one since I can mix and match?

Seems that staying with what your body is known to tolerate is a good plan.

When announced that mix & match was a thing it made me cringe a bit. - Certainly there is a best, lowest risk version in the offerings. Yet the 'experts' are all what-ev's. Just as long as you comply. Now put that mask back on. Here's yer sticker.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by island911

Seems that staying with what your body is known to tolerate is a good plan.

Makes sense.

[javadog]

Supposedly there’s a vaccine in development and it won’t be like the others and is less likely to be problematic from the standpoint of side effects. I don’t recall the company that’s developing it, nor do I know when it will be available. It might be worth a look.

[javadog]

Here’s an article that talks about what’s coming down the road:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-second-generation-covid-vaccines-are-coming/%3famp=true

My preferred strategy is one of treatment, not vaccination.

[island911]

Fantastic article java. Thanks.

direct link: www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-second-generation-covid-vaccines-are-coming

[upsscott]

Good article. It’s encouraging that more options are in the pipeline.

[javadog]

Anybody with more time on their hands than I have want to take a look at this and see if it shows that the trends for vaccinated people is getting worse?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1034383/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-46.pdf

[ted]

Originally Posted by javadog

Yep.
Answer this question for me. What did so many patients with a positive test get told to go home and rest until they got to where they had breathing difficulties, then come back to the hospital?

In the past perhaps so they could use steroids at the time to improve breathing.
Might be better treatments today.

[island911]

Originally Posted by javadog

Anybody with more time on their hands than I have want to take a look at this and see if it shows that the trends for vaccinated people is getting worse?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1034383/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-46.pdf

With more people being vaccinated, we should expect more of the vaccinated to be in the column of getting the virus and even dying. - such a weird thing to write. But that's the whole point. These "vaccines" are disappointing. These are more like temporary prophylaxis (the vax durability sucks.)

Seems to me that limiting one's own comorbidity factors is the bigger piece of the prevention puzzle. - stay trim and fit, get your sunshine (Vit- D). Live life. None of us gets out alive anyway.

[craigster59]

I've got the Moderna vax as does my Wife. We both noticed some joint pain the few weeks after the jab and I've experienced some numbness and tingling in my feet (neuropathy) but I walk a lot at work. We both are probably going to pass on the booster.

She's more into the glove, mask, hand sanitizing than I am. I really don't think the masks are effective at all but it's still mandated indoors at businesses in California.

I've had people approach me about not wearing a mask outdoors (Farmer's Market, line at Costco). I just tell them I have a medical exemption from wearing a mask. When they ask what it is I tell them "It's vision related, I just don't see myself wearing one".

That usually shuts their pie hole.

[javadog]

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/fda-produces-the-first-91-pages-of

[javadog]

https://www.skirsch.com/covid/VaccineEssentials.pdf

[Roswell]

I've had people approach me about not wearing a mask outdoors (Farmer's Market, line at Costco). I just tell them I have a medical exemption from wearing a mask. When they ask what it is I tell them "It's vision related, I just don't see myself wearing one".


That is just an awesome reply!

[upsscott]

Originally Posted by island911

With more people being vaccinated, we should expect more of the vaccinated to be in the column of getting the virus and even dying. - such a weird thing to write. But that's the whole point. These "vaccines" are disappointing. These are more like temporary prophylaxis (the vax durability sucks.)

Seems to me that limiting one's own comorbidity factors is the bigger piece of the prevention puzzle. - stay trim and fit, get your sunshine (Vit- D). Live life. None of us gets out alive anyway.

I am hearing about vaxxed people getting the virus. Of course that isn’t surprising. What I’m not hearing is vaxxed people dying other than people with prior conditions that leave them especially susceptible. So unless you have concrete numbers showing vaccinated death numbers going up, stop spreading misinformation.

[javadog]

https://meaninginhistory.substack.com/p/warning-danger-ahead

[island911]

Originally Posted by upsscott

I am hearing about vaxxed people getting the virus. Of course that isn’t surprising. What I’m not hearing is vaxxed people dying other than people with prior conditions that leave them especially susceptible. So unless you have concrete numbers showing vaccinated death numbers going up, stop spreading misinformation.

Perhaps now you can see the absurdity of your claim.

There are no Brown delivery trucks. ... other than UPS. .. and maybe some others. But there are no Brown delivery trucks, so stop lying and saying there are.

See how that works?

By the way... CV is in general killing "people with prior conditions that leave them especially susceptible." So how is this "vaccine" so great if it can not protect people with prior conditions that leave them especially susceptible?

[Roswell]

Data?

Here:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/11/if_the_vaccines_work_why_arent_they_working.html