A suspension for this? - Page 2

stevej37 · 09:35 AM

1990C4S "And if he wasn't mocking, what exactly was he doing? Entertaining us?"

If he were mocking...he wouldn't be complimenting him.

masraum · 08-19-2021, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37

^^^ I don't think there was any 'mocking' done. He just was trying to imitate his talking.
I'd like to hear what Ohtani thought of it....

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And there's the problem. You don't think he was mocking.

Of several million viewers some will be insulted, fairly, or not.

So MLB can't allow it.

And if he wasn't mocking, what exactly was he doing? Entertaining us?

That's exactly it. It didn't sound like he was being malicious or denigrating to the Japanese player to me, but then what was the purpose? Was it funny? I'm all for a joke, but it didn't seem funny to me. It didn't seem particularly offensive, but I can see how it absolutely would give a lot of folks pause and cause many to instantly be offended.

And, especially when you 1 don't personally know someone and their values and 2 only hear their voice, but can't see them and their body language, what are the odds that everyone listening got the right meaning of his speech.

We have green text here for a reason, and it's because in written word, it's hard to know what one person means. We have had many misunderstandings over the years based on written text. Spoken word is a little better because you can hear how they are presenting it, but even then, with a large audience, you're going to get a wide range of interpretations.

Bob Kontak · Bob Kontak's Garage

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Originally Posted by stevej37

^^^ I don't think there was any 'mocking' done. He just was trying to imitate his talking.

There's no tolerance anymore. That's all there is to it.

I ain't sayin' I like it as it cuts down on my freedom of expression, but it is what it is and it has teeth.

Tervuren · Tervuren's Garage

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Originally Posted by masraum

And if you are the face/representative of a company or entity, and you want to remain in that position, don't put yourself in the position for the company to have to worry about "is he making us look bad or should that have been fine?"

I would agree, but that would also apply to disciplinary action.
What if the response to an incident by the company results in a larger negative involving more people than what the employee originally said?

I already do not make effort to watch major TV sports expressly because of the fake atmosphere that I observed in increasing enforcement.
It's been nearly ten years since I went somewhere expressly to watch a NASCAR race on TV.
They lost me with the enforcement of what was said during the broadcasts into a hollow and fake world.
Now I watch amateur racing where a colorful world with variety still exists.

I would still expect some boundries for broadcast, but this is too tight.
In a case where an obvious positive take away exists let it go that way.

stevej37 · 10:04 AM

On a side, sad note to this.....Bill Freehan died today. 11 time All-Star
79 years old. Catcher for the Tigers. I clearly remember watching him on b&w tv...settling in under the final out in the 68 world series.

Bob Gibson and the Cards took it to 7 games. Pitcher Mickey Lolich won 3 of the 4 games for Detroit.

Joe Bob · Joe Bob's Garage

If he followed it up with "we're hunting Wabbits", he woulda gotta a pass.

pwd72s · 08-19-2021, 10:50 AM

'Anybody notice how some politicians can change accents while on the campaign trail? Hillary was a master at this.

PC and the cancel culture...making everybody afraid to speak...pretty sick...

I quit watching sports now that they've become "woke"...which puts me to sleep.

Chocaholic · 08-19-2021, 10:51 AM

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Ridiculous.

Tell the truth...you wanted to say “Ridicurous”.

stevej37 · 08-19-2021, 10:55 AM

I hardly ever watch MLB anymore. I just happened to hear his apology while watching the Tiger game. Miguel Cabrera has 499 HR's and the place was standing for all his at bats.

Chocaholic · 08-19-2021, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37

On a side, sad note to this.....Bill Freehan died today. 11 time All-Star
79 years old. Catcher for the Tigers. I clearly remember watching him on b&w tv...settling in under the final out in the 68 world series.

Bob Gibson and the Cards took it to 7 games. Pitcher Mickey Lolich won 3 of the 4 games for Detroit.

The 68 World Series was a highlight of my childhood. I still remember the experience of being glued to every game...following every player....I would have been 9.

Bill Freehan, Mickey Lolich, Willie Horton, Al Kaline, Denny McLain, Norm Cash, Dick McAuliffe, Mickey Stanley, and the list goes on. Like it was yesterday.

RIP Mr. Freehan.

stevej37 · 08-19-2021, 11:05 AM

^^^ I was at Tiger Stadium for McLains 30th win of the season.
My father, grandfather, and me.

I remember looking out the car window on the ride to the stadium and seeing all the burnt-out buildings after the 68 riots.

What Lolich did in that series was incredible.

javadog · 08-19-2021, 11:09 AM

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Tell the truth...you wanted to say “Ridicurous”.

Lidicurous would probably be closer. I have many Japanese acquaintances and friends and have flirted with the idea of picking up a little Japanese, so as not to be so useless on a future trip to Japan. They can pronounce L’s and R’s just fine, but phonetically their words are broken up into 50 or 60 syllables and there are a lot of English words that don’t lend themselves to speech patterns using those same syllables. It’s complicated.

Zeke · 08-19-2021, 11:18 AM

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Click on the fooking pause symbol.

Where is that button? I right clicked it to stop it.

javadog · 08-19-2021, 11:20 AM

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Where is that button? I right clicked it to stop it.

In the very bottom left, two vertical bars. They aren’t there constantly, you have to tap the video to bring them up.

Zeke · 08-19-2021, 11:24 AM

Nevermind, I saw the bar pop up at the bottom after starting the clip with the main blue button. Don't know how I missed that. Not very observant.

stevej37 · 08-19-2021, 11:25 AM

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Where is that button? I right clicked it to stop it.

Hover your mouse over the bottom of the video....it will appear.

javadog · 08-19-2021, 11:26 AM

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Nevermind, I saw the bar pop up at the bottom after starting the clip with the main blue button. Don't know how I missed that. Not very observant.

It’s not you. It doesn’t pop up when you first push play and if you hit the screen and make it pop up again, it will disappear after a couple seconds anyway.

Seahawk · 08-19-2021, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37

^^^ I was at Tiger Stadium for McLains 30th win of the season. My father, grandfather, and me.

Wow.

The Age of Baseball. I was and remain a Giants fan but the Tigers of that era were special.

Oh, pics or it didn't happen

stevej37 · 11:50 AM

^^^ No pics of that game..I was only 15 and didn't own a camera.
I do have numerous pics of the 84 series. We attended the final winning game for Det. over San Diego.
I have a pic of Gibson's 1st homer of the game coming off his bat. His second one landed about 15 seat rows from us.

stevej37 · 11:53 AM

If you look close...you can see the baseball in the air from Kirk Gibsons bat. Goose Gossage is the pitcher.
Not bad...$15 for a WS final game ticket!