Spielberg was involved as a producer but Jon Landis was seen as the most culpable as the director.

He wanted the helicopter to hover way too close to the ground when a SPFX mortar explosion took out the tail rotor causing it to spin uncontrollably and crash to the ground decapitating Vic Morrow and one of the kids while crushing the other under one of the skids.

I think there was big money paid out and maybe a few fines. That location along the Santa Clara River was Indian Dunes Motorcycle Park and then became location for Blacksheep Squadron and later China Beach.

There are two great lines above.

One I am going to steal without attribution:cool:

This is pretty interesteing, jump to 11:00 minutes into the video a discussion about blanks and weapons altered, made and tuned to fire blanks.

16:23 minutes he shakes the dummy round to hear the BB Craig described. Also a brief description of Armorers, Prop Master, etc. They also expalin that California has an entertainment firearms permit.

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For those of you in the "financial field", here's a description of the characters involved in the production and the funky moves that put a film into production. Also those who will ultimately be named in the lawsuits. Sounds like everyone is "lawyering up"...

https://deadline.com/2021/10/alec-baldwin-shooting-rust-producers-liability-haylna-hutchins-death-investigation-1234864223/

If it was the interview with Anderson Cooper that was him.

the time stamp of this image could be exhibit B - Steadicam obviously precludes safe workspace for anything capable of going 'bang';i reckon there is two hours of resetting to make safe for a scripted hero gun's Close-Up - and just about anyone's hand would do for that.
So does the schedule show that time being allocated - or did the director and superior/s elect to cut corners (making up for time lost arguing already)?

Everyone is very close in that setting. Even a shell case loaded with just a primer would feel like it's blowing your eardrums out. Plus it could send burning primer out the end of the barrel in close quarters such as this.

There are no dumb questions but there are some amazingly inquisitive idiots.

Here's something really interesting...

"Rust is a movie about the consequences of an accidental shooting."

:eek:

Yes, everyone please see the "Leave your gun at home on Halloween night" thread.

Why can't the weapon be loaded in the presence of the actor?

It usually is.

I just watched the movie Hold The Dark (Netflix). I’m giving it 3.5 of 5 stars. At least one star is added for the shoot ‘em up scenes. Especially now that I know how complicated they are to safely produce.

I think Heat is the only movie I've seen with realistic shooting scenes. That could not have been easy to make. But the sounds were very realistic, so mad props to Michael Mann.

Rick,Another good gun battle scene is at the end of Miami Vice The movie. Also
directed by Michael Mann.

The mixture of live and blank ammo in the gun seems to have no explanation to me. After hearing about all the problems and unrest on the set, I’m wondering if it could be possible that someone deliberately mixed a live round into the blank ammo or even deliberately loaded the gun with a live round. Does anyone know how possible that could be?

Yes. See post #39.

I think the AD knew there were 3 rounds of something in the gun, but didn't think it important enough to check. So he should have been the last layer of safety on the set, but failed. I'm not sure we'll know for sure where those 3 rounds came from. I'm sure we'll find out what the unfired rounds were soon enough.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/27/alec-baldwin-given-unchecked-gun-on-rust-set-warrant-says.html

Seems to me like they're ALL guilty. The plinkers who didn't empty the gun, whoever allowed real ammo on the site, the armorer for not even being there when a gun is on set, the guy who handed the gun to the actor, the producer who hired these bone heads, etc.
The only innocent people were the ones who got shot

It's funny because I was just thinking about "Heat" in the wake of all this movie gun talk. I am quite possibly the biggest Michael Mann fanboy on earth. He will not settle for anything second-rate, from the casting of extras to the verisimilitude of the violence and shooting scenes.

The scene in the abandoned Drive-in movie theatre where the guy in the PU truck gets smoked w the pump 12G is amazing...he really puts you there. People were ducking down in the theatre when it came out. :eek: