Toyota Chief saying all electric may not be the answer

[Magyar Kiwi]

From New Zealand, EV Flat Battery Rescue Service:

The Automobile Associations first EV charging breakdown van celebrates 1st birthday
The AA’s first electric vehicle charging breakdown van has been on the road in Wellington, NZ for more than a year – giving EVs a boost at the roadside 2 to 3 times a month on average.

The AA Battery Service van, which launched in late July 2020 to help curb ‘range anxiety’, is fitted with a lightweight EV charger. In 20-25 minutes, it enables enough charge to drive up to 10 kilometres so AA Members can get home or to a nearby charging station.

[HobieMarty]

Don't put all your eggs in one basket,
Just sayin.

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[look 171]

Whats wrong with hybrids? Is that's the best of both worlds. Elec cars create range anxiety otherwise none existing in traditional or hybrid vehicles. After this, I love Toyota more then ever.

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by KC911

Mr. Toyoda? Ya gotta be kiddin' me ?

https://www.toyota-industries.com/company/history/toyoda_sakichi/

[Rot 911]

Originally Posted by look 171

Whats wrong with hybrids? Is that's the best of both worlds. Elec cars create range anxiety otherwise none existing in traditional or hybrid vehicles. After this, I love Toyota more then ever.

That is a question I’ve often asked myself. Last fall we bought my wife a Lexus UX 250 H. It is a hybrid that you can run on the battery for about 25 miles. Round-trip for my wife to work is about 20 miles. So most of the time she is running on the battery in the city. When she goes to visit her mom she gets around 42 mpg and no range anxiety.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by look 171

Whats wrong with hybrids? Is that's the best of both worlds. Elec cars create range anxiety otherwise none existing in traditional or hybrid vehicles. After this, I love Toyota more then ever.

Well an 918 is the perfect solution!

[masraum]

Originally Posted by look 171

Whats wrong with hybrids? Is that's the best of both worlds. Elec cars create range anxiety otherwise none existing in traditional or hybrid vehicles. After this, I love Toyota more then ever.

I don't keep up with EV tech, but for quite a while I've been thinking that hybrid is the way to go, at least currently and in the near term.

[ZAMIRZ]

If you don't have reliable charging infrastructure near the areas you frequent most then hybrid or traditional ICE is certainly less effort.

I'm 1 year into EV ownership and don't have range anxiety anymore because I'm familiar with how my vehicle consumes energy in different situations and the availability of nearby charging options. I suspect it's like this for most people who have charging options they're comfortable with nearby.

That said, it was a little bit of a nail-biter when this happened as I pulled into the driveway after driving 300 miles home.

[mikehinton]

I think the point is that with current technology, having 100 percent of cars being EVs is not the answer. I completely agree. Before the flame wars start, be advised that we currently own an EV, and use it for errand running, and relatively short trips. Charging stations are sparse out in Eastern Washington. Once EVs can do things like my '87 Carrera (500-mile range, recharge to 100% in less than 10 minutes, "charging stations" everywhere), sure, all EV could make sense. In our current situation, hybrids truly seem to the best solution.

[Tervuren]

I was not aware of all the failures.
For some, it is all they see of someone.

Originally Posted by flatbutt

https://www.toyota-industries.com/company/history/toyoda_sakichi/

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by mikehinton

I think the point is that with current technology, having 100 percent of cars being EVs is not the answer. I completely agree. Before the flame wars start, be advised that we currently own an EV, and use it for errand running, and relatively short trips. Charging stations are sparse out in Eastern Washington. Once EVs can do things like my '87 Carrera (500-mile range, recharge to 100% in less than 10 minutes, "charging stations" everywhere), sure, all EV could make sense. In our current situation, hybrids truly seem to the best solution.

I agree. Hybrids with synthetic fuels may be the way of the future. But 100% battery power are like golf carts. They are great in the right application, but not so much otherwise. I was looking at the EV Polaris Ranger today at the local Honda dealer. Compared to the RZR Turbo 4 or even more relevant the Northstar Ranger Ultimate, the battery powered buggy is a hard "No Thank You". At some point something has to burn to produce the motiv power. The further you get away from this, the more cost there is in some form or another.

[Rtrorkt]

an interesting conversation on Harry's Garage channel.

[David]

I think plug in hybrid make the most sense if you have one car. Since most of my driving is less than 100 miles with 1 or 2 people and minimal luggage, a 2 seat pure electric sports car would cover most of my driving needs while simultaneously putting a driving smile on my face. On days when I need to drive farther or carry more, I’ll take the truck. For me, a hybrid has one big draw back in still needing oil changes. When is the electric Cayman going to be available?

[MrBonus]

Originally Posted by look 171

Whats wrong with hybrids? Is that's the best of both worlds. Elec cars create range anxiety otherwise none existing in traditional or hybrid vehicles. After this, I love Toyota more then ever.

They're the worst of both worlds. All the complexity of a gas motor with the limited range of a smaller battery pack.

I will gladly go back to an EV once I'm able to purchase an EV pickup at a reasonable price. I absolutely loved my Model 3 Performance and never really experienced range anxiety.