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sc_rufctr 07-11-2023 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 12041848)
im excited, i hope they dont just cover the bomb, but also the fact that they tried to accuse oppenheimer of being a communist agent.

I'll also be disappointed if that is not covered!

masraum 07-11-2023 05:03 PM

I love movies. If I was single, I could probably see myself going to a movie almost every weekend or at least every otcher weekend if I had the time. But I rarely go to movies any more. I'm also very happy to hang out at the casa with the missus. I haven't been to a movie since before Covid, and then it was probably once every 2-3 years kind of thing.

masraum 07-11-2023 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 12041891)
I am not a fan of full frontal nudity

Full frontal, male or female probably wouldn't keep me from seeing a movie, but seems like a weird thing to include in this one.

MBAtarga 07-11-2023 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12041860)
Matt Damon, Robert DJ, Emily Blunt, seems from a theatrical point of view, there's an excellent chance that this will be a good movie.

The local classic rock music station is offering free tickets periodically.

What galls me is they mention "staring Matt Daemon, Robert Downey Jr, Emily Blunt" and make NO mention of Cillian Murphy whom plays Oppenheimer! That is crazy. He was fantastic in the Peaky Blinders series.

Edit-added link that gives some info on R rating and the nudity:

https://uproxx.com/movies/oppenheimer-prolonged-full-nudity-cillian-murphy-florence-pugh/

Steve Carlton 07-11-2023 05:23 PM

He's less well known and the others are a bigger draw. I think he's great in Peaky Blinders, at least as a gangster. He's certainly well-cast for the role of Oppenheimer looks-wise, and I expect he'll do great. Then he'll be truly famous. Hopefully not for full frontal nudity.

stevej37 07-11-2023 05:30 PM

Sit in the lower quarter of the theatre....it's just like I-Max.

Use the money you saved on buttered popcorn. :D

Steve Carlton 07-11-2023 06:07 PM

We were smoked up in college and a bunch of us went to see Close Encounters of the Third Kind. My roommate marched us down the the front row looking straight up at the screen. It was funny, but we immediately relocated.

masraum 07-11-2023 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 12042301)
The local classic rock music station is offering free tickets periodically.

What galls me is they mention "staring Matt Daemon, Robert Downey Jr, Emily Blunt" and make NO mention of Cillian Murphy whom plays Oppenheimer! That is crazy. He was fantastic in the Peaky Blinders series.

Edit-added link that gives some info on R rating and the nudity:

https://uproxx.com/movies/oppenheimer-prolonged-full-nudity-cillian-murphy-florence-pugh/

I know that I've seen that guy before. Mostly what I remember him from is one or two of the Christian Bale Batman movies. I'm sure he's good, but I think the reason to mention actors is to get people to go "Oh, that's the familiar name of a top actor/celebrity. I love their stuff! I'll go see that because they are in it." I don't know that his name has that sort of cache.

red-beard 07-11-2023 07:03 PM

If you really want to understand how the Atomic Bomb was created, I suggest reading:

The Making of the Atomic Bomb - Richard Rhodes

We used parts of this book in my Nuclear Engineering 401 course. It is a history of the physics for the nuclear model which lead to splitting of the atom and the race for the atomic bomb.

In my opinion, without Leo Szilard, there would not have been an atomic bomb.

Interesting facts:

We know that Germany was working on the bomb. Few know that England was quite aways along with nuclear research and turned everything they knew over to the USA to assist in the Manhattan Project.

Almost no one knows that both Russia and Japan had research programs for an atomic bomb. Neither had the money to get very far. BUT, it was Japanese nuclear scientists that attested to their leadership that yes, it was an Atomic bomb that hit Hiroshima.

A great read after this book is: Dark Sun: The Making of the Hydrogen Bomb. The first half is all of the intrigue of the making of the Atomic Bomb, the spy infestation, and the Russian post war program.

Por_sha911 07-11-2023 07:05 PM

Apparently, once the movie comes out, people will be seeing a lot more of Cillian Murphy. :eek:

GH85Carrera 07-12-2023 07:22 AM

On my recent tour of southern New Mexico I was withing a few miles of the Trinity site, where the first bomb was tested. It is even now, a remote area. The site is only open for visitation on a strange schedule, and only rarely.

mjohnson 07-12-2023 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12042614)
On my recent tour of southern New Mexico I was withing a few miles of the Trinity site, where the first bomb was tested. It is even now, a remote area. The site is only open for visitation on a strange schedule, and only rarely.

First Saturday of April and October.

mjohnson 07-12-2023 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 12042386)
If you really want to understand how the Atomic Bomb was created, I suggest reading:

... In my opinion, without Leo Szilard, there would not have been an atomic bomb.

... We know that Germany was working on the bomb. Few know that England was quite aways along with nuclear research and turned everything they knew over to the USA to assist in the Manhattan Project.

I don't know if Rhodes has completely moved on from such things - I think he was more recently into bio/virus stuff. The Szilard/Einstein business to which he refers needs updating. Though, boy, did he focus on it quite extensively in "The Making..." It was probably the more weapon-applicable focus of the Frisch/Pierls leter to UK's MAUD (kind of their DARPA at that time) that emphasized that this could be a useful weapon.

More information on the German project comes out now and then but some believe Heisenburg, having not left Germany, possibly "monkey wrenched" their project so as to deny/delay a German bomb.

The Brits kind of invented everything cool (the neutron, the "absolute" temperature scale, heavy metal music and magnetrons/radar). There's a book about Harold Loomis that describes his support and donated lab space for later CONUS development of radar.

Steve Carlton 07-12-2023 01:30 PM

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Tobra 07-12-2023 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12042293)
I love movies. If I was single, I could probably see myself going to a movie almost every weekend or at least every otcher weekend if I had the time. But I rarely go to movies any more. I'm also very happy to hang out at the casa with the missus. I haven't been to a movie since before Covid, and then it was probably once every 2-3 years kind of thing.

Last movie I saw in a theater was Toy Story 3, before that maybe Cable Guy. I could count on one hand the number of movies I have gone to in the last 30 years

Next movie I see in a theater will be Sound of Freedom

sc_rufctr 07-15-2023 05:35 AM

"Manhattan Project Trinity Test - Stock Footage"

https://youtu.be/nAm_OPVeS4w

flatbutt 07-15-2023 08:21 AM

Oppy wasn't exactly faithful to his wife. His extra marital affair with Jean sumthin'...a known communist party member caused him some serious stick. So maybe the nudity was overdone but the affair was a big deal and hey it's Hollywood.

mjohnson 07-15-2023 08:49 AM

Happy(?) Trinity Test-eve!

No protests tomorrow here in LA from what I can tell. Perhaps after the movie there will be a surge for 6 Aug - the Hiroshima bombing.

It seems like over the last decade the vigorous antis have wandered or died off. In the '90s and a little into the naughts we'd get ~1000 protesters (mostly in CA-plated S-class Benzs BTW) even including Martin Sheen and more than a few llamas. I think Mr Sheen's been "arrested" at least twice for civil disobedience.

pavulon 07-15-2023 11:40 AM

I don't understand people who clutch their pearls over nudity. Would have to imagine they're pretty dramatic about nearly everything in life.

flatbutt 07-16-2023 11:41 AM

Anyone seen Fat Man and Little Boy with Paul Newman? IDK the accuracy of it but I liked it.



"Despite past associations with left wing organizations, Oppenheimer welcomed the opportunity to play a part in the war effort. Later, however, he had mixed feelings about the bomb. "I have no remorse about the making of the bomb… As for how we used it, I understand why it happened and appreciate with what nobility those men with whom I'd worked made their decision. But I do not have the feeling that it was done right. The ultimatum to Japan [the Potsdam Proclamation demanding Japan's surrender] was full of pious platitudes. ...our government should have acted with more foresight and clarity in telling the world and Japan what the bomb meant," he said.

Einstein was less equivocal. Years later he regretted having signed a letter to President Roosevelt urging him to support the research of physicists into nuclear chain reactions and their use as a weapon, because he believed the Germans were already working on it. "Had I known that the Germans would not succeed in producing an atomic bomb," he said, "I would have never lifted a finger.
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I've read that Kalashnikov had deep regrets when he realized how many people the AK had killed.


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