Ferrari

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

Christian Bale was the first one considered for the Ferrari role. He pulled out over concerns about having to gain weight. Hugh Jackman was going to play the role, but cancelled due to unknown reasons. I suspect Robert Downey Jr would have been great in the role. Without knowing what Enzo was really like, it's hard to say if his portrayal was accurate or not.

How so?

I know we don't know what he was really like but we know he's an Italian alpha male in the 1950s. That alone makes Driver a bad choice for the role. We also know Ferrari built a racing and automotive empire. How Driver portrayed Enzo is antithetical to those three absolutes.

Like all of his roles, his baseline is whiny and weak such that when he expresses courage/anger/dominance, it comes off as ineffectual and laughable like the scene in the trailer. He feigns these emotions/traits, they aren't authentic.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

Christian Bale was the first one considered for the Ferrari role. He pulled out over concerns about having to gain weight. Hugh Jackman was going to play the role, but cancelled due to unknown reasons. I suspect Robert Downey Jr would have been great in the role. Without knowing what Enzo was really like, it's hard to say if his portrayal was accurate or not.

I am both glad and sad to hear about Bale. RDJr. also has the balls for the role. Jackman would have been good too.

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Originally Posted by masraum

On Enzo - bummer. I was hoping for a cool movie with car content

On the Shell commercial, I've got an HD copy downloaded and watch that periodically, and often more than once at a time.

Originally Posted by slow&rusty

The Shell commercial is brilliant!!

I am intrigued by the Ferrari movie and will probably watch it.

Shaun - Thanks for your review

If you guys like the Shell commercial you would have absolutely loved the film montage of Ferrari wins that was always shown before we enjoyed our Ferrari F1 race team Christmas meal

With so many historic F1 and sports car wins to celebrate I found it quite hard not to get a little dust in my eyes

Not seen the film yet but I will do so looking forward to it

[javadog]

I watched the trailer and thought Adam Driver was a bad choice for Enzo. He looked about as much like him as Matt Damon did Carroll Shelby, which is to say, not at all. Are there no actors in Italy that can speak passable English?

That said, I thought it was an odd choice to make the entire script out of a really short period of his career.

I believe this is what Enzo look like in 1957:

[javadog]

Forgot the stinkin’ photo:

[Zeke]

Apparently Robert De Niro was considered many years ago. How long has this movie been in the works? Christopher Walken could have done it when he was younger.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr

If you guys like the Shell commercial you would have absolutely loved the film montage of Ferrari wins that was always shown before we enjoyed our Ferrari F1 race team Christmas meal

Dude! What a horrible thing to tell us! "You think that's cool? You have no idea. There's this other thing that only a handful of folks in the world get to see, and it's so amazing..."

Damn tease!

[Steve Carlton]

Apparently, Michael Mann had been trying to make this movie for 30 years.

That's Eugenio Castellotti in the picture with Enzo. He died testing in March, 1957. His crash was portrayed in the movie, and it was horrific as well.

It's cool that Patrick Dempsey portrayed Piero Taruffi, who won the 1957 Mille Miglia. It was the last one (other then ceremonial ones later) because of the accident near the end of the movie where Alfonso de Portago and his co-driver Edmund Nelson died along with 9 spectators, 5 of them children.

[Jeff Alton]

This movie was below average at best. Sloooowwww to get moving. Focused on one small window of the man and marque. A couple hours of life I will never get back....

Oh well...

[Steve Carlton]

Save a couple of hours and skip Lamborghini: The Man Behind the Legend. I thought that was much worse.

[Deschodt]

The problem with this movie is the choice of subject matter vs the fact most viewers will go as car-guys expecting some car guy stuff. And there is some, and it's a lot of real cars and some replicas.. Dario Franchitti's Brother Marino is in it, driving some Maserati (real) and even was given a small part in the movie as another driver. I listened to him talk about it and it was very interesting re: the effort that went into replicating the old tracks and getting cars and doing the driving stunts... The part about the Mille Miglia and the accident (I have the book) was replicated eerily well, down to the gash in the tire that matched the picture from the era...

So in many ways, they did the job very well, it's just not the result most people wanted, it's 6 months in the life of a complicated man at a pivotal moment in his life, and more about his relationships and the survival of his empire... With some racing stuff... I found it very well made, thought the acting was superb both from Penelope and Adam Driver (even though yeah, looks wise he would not have been an obvious choice).

The thing that fails for me is my fault.. I'm so used to seeing old moviesd or pics of old cars and old tracks, when you see them portrayed as "new" in period, it somehow looks wrong, too new, fake. Had the same issue with Rush or Ford v Ferrari, the colors seem too bright, LOL (totally on me).