Klipsch Speakers

[berettafan]

I have the Lintons. They are not really bookshelf speakers. My general reading is they require a decent power source. I'm running 115w to them and don't feel like I'm over powered in a small room.

I did previously have Denton 85s and really liked them. Those are bookshelf sized but would absolutely need a sub.

[908/930]

Originally Posted by David

Here's what I've been considering:

JBL L100 Classic MkII $4,800
JBL L82 Classic MkII $2,900
MoFi Source Point 10 $3,299
Wharfedale Linton $1,800
KLH Model 5 $2,500
Klipsch Heresy $3,200

I didn't see a Revel or KEF that really seemed to fit my bill.

They need to fit on a high shelf to clear garage stuff and I'd like to run without a subwoofer so looking for good bass in a bookshelf size (under 28" tall) speaker.

I'd like them to be somewhat vintage looking, not that my garage has anything esthetically going for it.

You can see my current right speaker above the Cayman windshield and I'm looking to keep speakers on the same shelves.

I think you can scratch the JBL L100 from your list if you plan to power then with that Onkyo TX8470, speaker rated 4 Ohm TX8470 rated lowest of 6 Ohm, likely to run hot. You should consider the garage space will likely sound pretty reflective, most speakers are voiced for regular home interior with some absorption from soft materials, so a really good speaker likely won't sound as good as it could in a slightly dampened room.

[berettafan]

Oh the Lintons dip below 4ohms I believe.

[David]

I went by the local hifi shop to hear the Heresy’s and really liked them. The black that I wanted were on back order so I asked about the black demos I just listened to. He said sure and knocked $500 off. Of course I had to listen to the Jubilee’s that were there too (and some big Focals).








Of course they look best in my messy garage

[IROC]

There was a pair of kg 4s on FB Marketplace yesterday for $250. I texted 25 minutes after they were listed and they were already sold.

[Cajundaddy]

Fun conversation. My background is pro sound and I do not fit the audiophile label but have always enjoyed horn loaded speakers from Klipsch, Altec, Electro-Voice, and JBL. All of these companies shared engineers and technology back in the 40s and 50s developing the state of the art at that time.

I owned a pair of Altec A7 Voice Of The Theater cabs with 511 horns and onboard Altec biamplification back in the 70s. They sounded fantastic in very large rooms or even outdoors but completely overwhelmed small rooms and the deep 35hz LF never had a chance to develop.

If you get Klipsch, choose the large cabs and put them in the corners of a large room for best results. Some wall diffusion to eliminate standing waves may also be a good treatment for best sound.

My brother owned a pair of Heresys but put them in a highly reflective room in a poor location. I thought they sounded harsh and never really pleasing to the ears. With good placement and a well-dampened room they would probably be a lot better.

Other vintage speakers I like from the 70s-80s:
JBL 4311 Studio Monitors- Worked with these a lot and they are very true to the recording.
Advent- Typically a bookshelf infinite baffle design with quality components and very nice sound.
Boston Acoustics A100- A tall speaker with fairly cheap cabinet but great sounding speakers. I still have a pair of these.

Cheers!

https://audioxpress.com/article/altec-lansing-s-voice-of-the-theatre-speakers-what-you-need-to-know

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by David

Where do you find mag tape for the reel to reel? I have a vintage Akai GX 365 D

[IROC]

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy

Other vintage speakers I like from the 70s-80s:
JBL 4311 Studio Monitors- Worked with these a lot and they are very true to the recording.
Advent- Typically a bookshelf infinite baffle design with quality components and very nice sound.
Boston Acoustics A100- A tall speaker with fairly cheap cabinet but great sounding speakers. I still have a pair of these.

Funny, but my current speakers are Advents. Bought brand new by my Dad in 1978. I re-foamed them and have been using them for years. I really like the tight bass from the acoustic suspension design.

And...I had a pair of Boston Acoustics A100s. I lusted after them for a couple of years as a right-out-of-college kid and finally bought them and got them home and didn't love them in my space. But, I kept them into the early '90s when my Dad gave me his Advents as he had just bought a pair of Klipsch kg 3.2s.

My current idea is to move the Advents to my bonus room and get new (old) speakers for the living room to replace the Advents...

[Cajundaddy]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

Where do you find mag tape for the reel to reel? I have a vintage Akai GX 365 D

https://reeltoreelwarehouse.com

If your vintage machine is anything like mine it probably needs all of the belts and pinch rollers replaced to restore smooth transport. These guys probably have everything you need.

[Sooner or later]

Get a 2nd pair of advents and stack them.

[ErVikingo]

Some questions (from a 2 channel addict with a dedicated room):

- size of room
- will this be a dedicated listening room
- music preference
- What do you value more: great sound or sound pressure?

I currently have 2 systems; 1 with Aerial Acoustic 8b on solid state and the other one with Infinity IRS Beta with both tubes and solid state amplification

[IROC]

Originally Posted by ErVikingo

Some questions (from a 2 channel addict with a dedicated room):

- size of room
- will this be a dedicated listening room
- music preference
- What do you value more: great sound or sound pressure?

I currently have 2 systems; 1 with Aerial Acoustic 8b on solid state and the other one with Infinity IRS Beta with both tubes and solid state amplification

- size of room - it's 27' x 22', but is a combination living/dining/kitchen, so really 22' x 18'
- will this be a dedicated listening room - no, see above
- music preference - everything from Simon and Garfunkel to Tool
- What do you value more: great sound or sound pressure? - great sound

But...in reality, I am 60 years old and my ears are shot from too much car racing. I am just looking for something that sounds decent.

[javadog]

Originally Posted by ErVikingo

Some questions (from a 2 channel addict with a dedicated room):

- size of room
- will this be a dedicated listening room
- music preference
- What do you value more: great sound or sound pressure?

It's almost all about the room, as alluded to here. Great speakers in a bad room = meh sound.

It's worth watching a few YouTube videos on room acoustics to learn the basic ins and outs, before going all hog wild buying audio gear.

As for the Klipsch, I used to have a buddy that did some consulting work of sorts with them and he hooked me up with some Klipsch speakers for the home theater in my last house. They worked well for movies but weren't my first choice for music. My .02, for what little that's worth.

[ErVikingo]

Originally Posted by IROC

- size of room - it's 27' x 22', but is a combination living/dining/kitchen, so really 22' x 18'
- will this be a dedicated listening room - no, see above
- music preference - everything from Simon and Garfunkel to Tool
- What do you value more: great sound or sound pressure? - great sound

But...in reality, I am 60 years old and my ears are shot from too much car racing. I am just looking for something that sounds decent.

Large room! Being a shared space, I assume you have limitations on where to place your speakers. That should be factored in your choice (my speakers are almost 7 feet from the front wall and the mid/high towers 3.8 from the side walls on a 27*14*11 room.

HOW much flexibility for placement is the marital unit allowing?

For critical listening:

A quick input into the Cardas calculator suggests a starting position of 6' in from sides and 9.8 from front wall.

Real Trap suggests 7.4' from sides, 4' from front wall with your listening position at 10.25' from front wall.

Many variables play into this, particularly materials, floor and window treatments and furniture type and location/

In a shared space, I would consider DSP based "room correction". A misnomer IMHO but a great solution.

Music preference; awesome! So you need a proper full range speaker or some nice stand mounts with sub(s).

Been racing decades (might have raced together at some point) and I hear ya (or do I !).

[ErVikingo]

[QUOTE=javadog;12403412]It's almost all about the room, as alluded to here. Great speakers in a bad room = meh sound.

It's worth watching a few YouTube videos on room acoustics to learn the basic ins and outs, before going all hog wild buying audio gear.
/QUOTE]

Feel free to ask. Been at this for too long.

[javadog]

Originally Posted by ErVikingo

Feel free to ask. Been at this for too long.

I'm good. Been at this forever, too. Old enough that my ears suck, sold my last house so also sold my last decent audio gear. Looking forward to using headphones in a high rise condo to keep the neighbors happy and pimping out the stereo in the daily driver.

Back to where I was in my teenage years, basically.

A useful YouTube site for people unfamiliar with the basics of room audio design:

https://www.youtube.com/@AcousticFields