I need some REAL dating advice...

[vash]

Jerry is wise!!^^

some of us think way too highly of ourselves. I just KNOW there is a forum of women just chatting about the blow hard men they have to endure on the dating apps. I work with single ladies and they say the men on the Apps are a bunch of a-holes that dont match their self proclaimed accolades.

I help my wife host nurse dinner parties. I cook, put out the food, make myself a plate and go hide and let them do their sisterhood stuff...not my place. my wife said I am everyone's dream type. hahaha.... if my wife passed away..I am going to grieve, and then throw a dinner party..hahhaha..

true story. I was fishing the Russian river. a gaggle of women go kayaking by and they wanted a selfie...I offered to take their group pic. they group up next to each other, kayak side by side. I aim camera..didnt like what I saw, so I stood up in my kayak and snapped the pic with a mild Birds Eye view.. they OHHHHH! one lady asked me out right there....her friend said the best complement I have ever received..."no honey..no way he is single".

I paddled off, met my friend Tommy and asked, "tell me you heard that?"!!!

hahhaha...forget judging by the covers people. test the waters, exit politely if it is a no go...

[Dixie]

Originally Posted by 911 Rod

To those that say don't go online to meet woman. I assume you are with someone long term.
It really is the only way unless you get lucky. Really lucky.
All the good ones are pretty much taken or want to be single.

I think a better approach is to simply go do things you want. You'll do something you enjoy, probably meet women doing it, and importantly, they'll be able to gain an interest in you.

Think about it, there's about three times as many men as women on any given online dating site. Why is that? Because the women men want are getting asked out at Lowe's, the grocery store, church, as well as bars and restaurants. Online dating for women is terrible. It consumes lots of time to wade though countless pics of nondiscript guys, with little to no bio, that all think "hey" is a clever opening line. And a lot of the women online aren't really interested in dating. The validation is free and easy, while meeting some guy you know nothing about is scary.

Remember guys, women fall in love with our ears. A guy that talks and flirts with me gets better looking with every passing moment. Your photo holding a fish does nothing.

[john70t]

A relationship should be complimentary. So if it's not..
https://x.com/ADRWC/status/1987898359211065662

[wilnj]

Originally Posted by Dixie

with little to no bio, that all think "hey" is a clever opening line.

I prefer 'sup instead of 'hey'

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Dixie

I think a better approach is to simply go do things you want. You'll do something you enjoy, probably meet women doing it, and importantly, they'll be able to gain an interest in you.

Think about it, there's about three times as many men as women on any given online dating site. Why is that? Because the women men want are getting asked out at Lowe's, the grocery store, church, as well as bars and restaurants. Online dating for women is terrible. It consumes lots of time to wade though countless pics of nondiscript guys, with little to no bio, that all think "hey" is a clever opening line. And a lot of the women online aren't really interested in dating. The validation is free and easy, while meeting some guy you know nothing about is scary.

Remember guys, women fall in love with our ears. A guy that talks and flirts with me gets better looking with every passing moment. Your photo holding a fish does nothing.

Best line of the year!

"And a lot of the women online aren't really interested in dating."

Interesting. Window shopping?

Not in the dating game whatsoever but I have to agree in general that if one is to meet someone it is likely going to happened in the normal course of events, not sitting at a computer screen. One thing I've noticed for years is that a lot of women will smile briefly with eye contact. IDK why, but it seems many do. All it would take is a reply, "Nice smile." You'll know in a second if they are interested or just being polite. I think most are being polite. Also, they may not even realize that they do this.

Beats a frown.

[stevej37]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Best line of the year!

"And a lot of the women online aren't really interested in dating."

Interesting. Window shopping?

Not in the dating game whatsoever but I have to agree in general that if one is to meet someone it is likely going to happened in the normal course of events, not sitting at a computer screen. One thing I've noticed for years is that a lot of women will smile briefly with eye contact. IDK why, but it seems many do. All it would take is a reply, "Nice smile." You'll know in a second if they are interested or just being polite. I think most are being polite. Also, they may not even realize that they do this.

Beats a frown.

Or....'an eyebrow raise'

.

[john70t]

A majority of the 'dating sites' are owned by the same people.
The grift is to keep customers online, wasting time, and paying for as long as possible. Meat market. Numbers.

Many of the high value profiles are simply fake to keep the desperate peak interest up. Pavlov effect.
Many are scammer groups: Have a few conversations. Express interest. Establish bond. Have some crisis requiring funds. Millions of people scammed but they don't want to talk about it out of shame.
This will become exponential worse with A.I. and profiles.

If you go that route, keep it local and meet for coffee in a safe place soon.
It either works or it don't. Don't get strung along indefinitely.
80% of the women are chasing the top 20% men and have pure fantasy expectations with little to offer. That silver platter.

Through friends and organizations is a better venue imo.

[911 Rod]

^^^ Totally agree.
I went on a site last week because I was curious.
All the 60 year old woman are perfect and hot!
I see lots in real life and they don't look like that. lol

[rcooled]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Not in the dating game whatsoever but I have to agree in general that if one is to meet someone it is likely going to happened in the normal course of events...

Not a player either, but I can't help but notice the number of single women picking up dinner after work from the hot bar at the local grocery (I'm just assuming they're single 'cause they're only getting enough for one person and aren't wearing a ring). I've always thought it might possibly be a good place to meet someone, 'cause you already have the food thing in common. And asking a question, or commenting on the offerings is an easy way to break the ice.

One thing I've noticed for years is that a lot of women will smile briefly with eye contact.

I notice that too...

Originally Posted by Dixie

Your photo holding a fish does nothing.

Or one of you in black leathers sitting on a Harley. I'm sure some women go for that, but I think it's a 'swipe left' for many.

[MikeSid]

Originally Posted by Zeke

... One thing I've noticed for years is that a lot of women will smile briefly with eye contact. IDK why, but it seems many do. All it would take is a reply, "Nice smile." You'll know in a second if they are interested or just being polite. I think most are being polite. Also, they may not even realize that they do this....

I read many years ago that this is a evolutionary biological response for women facing eye contact from men. It's such a consistent phenomenon that I tend to believe that. Kinda ruins all of those smiles I thought I earned all on my own.

[oldE]

These days, if a woman smiles at me I have learned that it's because I remind her of her grandfather.

[stevej37]

^^^ Or if they smile and call you 'sir'......please don't call me that.

[911 Rod]

And hold the door open for you

[stevej37]

^^^ yeah...that's not good.

[thingmon]

Originally Posted by wilnj

I prefer 'sup instead of 'hey'

Not 'Yo'?

[Baz]

[oldE]

Originally Posted by 911 Rod

And hold the door open for you

That happens SO often!

[Baz]

Couple now engaged after dating in ’74, losing spouses.....

[Dixie]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Best line of the year!

"And a lot of the women online aren't really interested in dating."

Interesting. Window shopping?
.

For a variety of reasons.

• We may just need validation that men are still interested in us.
• We fear rejection. If I don't go on the date, I didn't have to get rejected because I'm tall, have an accent, have a speck of money, or don't go to church.
• Again, most guys look kinda nondiscript and similar. Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude.
• For us online is work! It's much easier to sit my ass down at a bar, or just go grocery shopping. Some guy will approach.
• Since men approach us in real life, it's likely we're online fishing just in case some rich, gorgeous, hunk decided he has to meet us.
• Meeting any new guy is scary. I don't think men really understand this one. Try imagining your in lock-up with a bunch of gay linebackers . They're all looking at you like your the last danish left, while trying to fondle your ass and tell you what they want to do with you. It's kinda like that, and it gets old.

[WPOZZZ]

My advice, take what you can get. I've been with my gf for 10 years and we weren't the perfect match. She was/is out of my league, but somehow, I caught her. She is drop dead gorgeous, but brought up in Korea and has Korean values and ideals. Me, I'm pure American and so we clash. Over the years, I have lost 70 lbs and her gfs say I am handsome. I think they are blowing smoke up my ass.

The bad. She doesn't want to work and can't cook. Her skill is shopping. Me. I'm short and tend to do whatever I want without consulting anyone. I also have 2 bratty dogs. At my other house, I have a couple cats and lots of ducks. The ducks come and go, but at one time I had about 30. I did have about 27 cats several years ago. I guess I'm the crazy cat/duck guy.