a question to the rimfire crowd.

[vash]

trying to simmer down on Forum activities. but this question needs the collective brain energy of the gun guys. pew pew!

just spit balling.

to build a hyper accurate Ruger 10/22 do i even need an original 10/22 to start with?

custom Reciever, barrel, stock..all the acoutrements... what is left that i need from a factory rifle. the trigger assembly?

will the final produce even have a SN#??

just curious.

[juanbenae]

Oh, different Rim Fire.... Before my time up here being in 2013 and all, but my neighbors were all evacuated. Burned to within about 4 miles of my place. I go out into the burn area quite often for trails in the jeep and dirt bikes. It has now been reforested and the trees in some cases are already 15-20 feet high depending on species. You can also see living trees on the ridges in straight lines where the tankers dropped retardant in efforts to stop the fire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rim_Fire

I used to go camp at Cherry Lake out there long before the fire and it was a beautiful drive with heavy forest. This is Jacka$$ falls that I only found after the fire, but have been told this spot was unbelievable prefire.

[gumby]

Vash..there are lots of forums decaded to the Ruger 10-22
how far do you want to go? slippery slope but fun

[Racerbvd]

I had one of my Masonic Brothers (R.I.P.) build me this one for my sister(R.I.P.).



She had a decent size piece of property(it was out in the woods)and wanted something that would “Look” scary to anyone at her gate, because cancer had weakened her, she needed something that she could easily handle and was accurate in case she needed to “Discourage” anyone. I tried it out before giving it to her and Jack did a great job on it as it’s extremely accurate. That reminds me, I need a 22 day at the range for this and a few pistols.

[John Rogers]

Well a bit more info would help such as the shooting distance, what make of ammo, use the mag or load single round at a time. I bought my late daughter a 10/22 when she turned 16 back in 1998 and it is one of the special "pink" models Ruger made for breast cancer awareness promotion. It has a different barrel than the run of the mill 10/22 rifles and after doing some internal work such as polishing the feed ramp and mounting a Chinese scope I bought at the now-defunct Delmar gun show she could make 5 shots touch at 50 yards and less than 1 inch groups at 100 yards.

Along with the feed ramp polish, I lightened the bolt slightly and added a molded cheek piece on top of the rear stock. That was adjustable for height so I could shoot it too. As noted, there are great user groups for the 10/22 and they cover most everything you can do if you have the $$$$ for the bits and pieces.

Some additional things we did was to get a couple muzzle adapters since the front sight is silver soldered in place and we added a flash hider but it made the shots much louder? Also tried to see how quiet an oil filter suppresser can be and the only noise was the bolt clicking. Took it off right away of course.
John Rogers the oldracer

[MMiller]

Originally Posted by vash

trying to simmer down on Forum activities. but this question needs the collective brain energy of the gun guys. pew pew!

just spit balling.

to build a hyper accurate Ruger 10/22 do i even need an original 10/22 to start with?

custom Reciever, barrel, stock..all the acoutrements... what is left that i need from a factory rifle. the trigger assembly?

will the final produce even have a SN#??

just curious.

I think U have to buy Ruger S/N receiver but its been a few years so maybe that's changed, but that's the only Ruger piece you need. You don't need a trigger assembly. I have one that the rest of it is Kidd Design aka coolguyguns. Have a couple grand in it but it is a tack driver..

[MMiller]

I just looked on the Kidd site and he is selling receivers, so maybe you don't need a Ruger receiver... not sure how that works but I'm sure someone will be a long to educate me.

[id10t]

No you don't. Easy way to just to go with a complete Kidd set up.

You can make your own receiver and avoid having a serial on it, or you can buy one of the various aftermarket receivers (Brownells, etc), transfer it via a dealer to you, and build on.

Sadly all of the old school smith services like Brimstone for trigger work and CPC for complete over-hauls are all closed now....

Feel free to ask more, I've been playing with accurized 10/22s for 20 years.

Note that a half gallon of paint will shrink your groups by at least 1/4 of a MOA

[vash]

thanks you two.

yea, thats how i read it. buy the Kidd Receiver, barrel, timney trigger, some chassis (stock) scope and take it from there. seems to be there wouldnt be a SN#.

@john rogers, thanks. seems like the you wouldnt build a rifle around a make of ammo. in my mind it goes the other direction..get the rifle built and then find the best ammo and lot# for that rifle. distances? dunno. whatever the competition requires?

[John Rogers]

Good point there Vash, I was shooting our regular target matches with 308 ammo and was introduced to black powder muzzle loading about 25 years ago and with that my mentor (national BPCR shooter) said that the barrel is the most important part followed by the trigger you use and in my case it is the set dual trigger favored by the BP crowd. My first BP cartridge rifle had a very old Badger barrel that a local San Diego gunsmith rifled in the way Pope did it. Even then it took me 6 months to get the correct load so I could win matches.

The local Schuetzen shooters all tell me what they use and which 22LR ammo is most consistent and such so it seems like which came first the chicken or the egg?
John Rogers the oldracer

[Cajundaddy]

Well, just to throw a wrench in there. I love the 10/22 and it might be the best 22 rifle platform of all time but if we are serious about "hyper accuracy" I want a bolt action or lever gun for a highly controlled charge. The 10/22 does shoot really well but if I get serious, I can consistently shoot tighter groups with my 1967 bolt action 22. Maybe it's familiarity, maybe trigger pull, maybe the calming process of cycling the bolt, but I cannot ignore consistent results. Been a long time since I did any tournament shooting but this was my experience.

YMMV

[id10t]

Originally Posted by vash

thanks you two.

yea, thats how i read it. buy the Kidd Receiver, barrel, timney trigger, some chassis (stock) scope and take it from there. seems to be there wouldnt be a SN#.

only way to avoid a serial is to make your own receiver (doable)

@john rogers, thanks. seems like the you wouldnt build a rifle around a make of ammo. in my mind it goes the other direction..get the rifle built and then find the best ammo and lot# for that rifle. distances? dunno. whatever the competition requires?

When you can control the ammo (reloading) building a rifle aroud ammo choice works. But until you talk quality/consistency all 22lr ammo is basically the same

You will end up shooting Lapua/Sk, Ely, or RES to get best groups, though inexpensive CCI Standard Velocity is darn good considering the price differences

[id10t]

Originally Posted by Cajundaddy

Well, just to throw a wrench in there. I love the 10/22 and it might be the best 22 rifle platform of all time but if we are serious about "hyper accuracy" I want a bolt action or lever gun for a highly controlled charge. The 10/22 does shoot really well but if I get serious, I can consistently shoot tighter groups with my 1967 bolt action 22. Maybe it's familiarity, maybe trigger pull, maybe the calming process of cycling the bolt, but I cannot ignore consistent results. Been a long time since I did any tournament shooting but this was my experience.

YMMV

My 10/22 - factory receiver/bolt, Brimstone trigger, Green Mountain barrel, id10t-bedded Boyds stock - is just as accurate as my CZ and Savage bolt guns. 1" at 100 yards is not unobtainable with good ammo (SK or Lapua for me), and 1/2" at 50 is easy wtih CCI SV. The 32x scope helps

A full on KIDD build will keep up with any Anschultz, Suhl, Win/H&R, Remington, etc bolt gun

[Rapewta]

I put "Tech Sites" and a Busnell red dot .... You know... Pumpkin on a post.
Then I installed Ruger's after market Trigger assembly. A real light tirigger pull. Love the 10/22.

[JavaBrewer]

Gosh this thread reminded me I have a 10/22 totally stock that is stored away that I would love to spend money on. i was looking into that almost 15 years ago but got sidetracked with other things. Excited now for the adventure.

[vash]

I went a bit down the Rab-hole...like this!! probably $3k if I had to guess. but it looks so cool and fun.

[id10t]

Originally Posted by vash

I went a bit down the Rab-hole...like this!! probably $3k if I had to guess. but it looks so cool and fun.

PM incoming later when im on a real computer

[Rick Lee]

I'm kind of suspicious of people who don't own a 10/22. If you don't have one, but plan to buy one, you get a pass. Why would you not own a 10/22? I feel a little guilty about the few years I went without one. I was lost at that time.

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

I'm kind of suspicious of people who don't own a 10/22. If you don't have one, but plan to buy one, you get a pass. Why would you not own a 10/22? I feel a little guilty about the few years I went without one. I was lost at that time.

Because I have a Remington Nylon 66?



Anyway, here's a fun article on rimfire rifles...covers a lot of styles & purposes...

https://www.usa-gun-shop.com/best-22lr-rifles/

[id10t]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

I'm kind of suspicious of people who don't own a 10/22. If you don't have one, but plan to buy one, you get a pass. Why would you not own a 10/22? I feel a little guilty about the few years I went without one. I was lost at that time.

TBH I hate the basic 10/22 and refused to even consider buying one until I discovered all of the aftermarket stuff (and cottage industries then) to tweak and tune them. The mag release sucks, the bolt hold open is a biatch to work, and the curved butt plate on the stock looks stupid and feels worse. Sure, a DSP or LVT fixes the stock issue (nicely no less) but the mag and bolt release still produce vacuum.

There used to be a seller on ebay that had nice lever style mag releases (I have several) but he stopped doing them a few years back and I can't get more. The KIDD extended lever style mag release is also good but much more expensive. All the other lever style releases I've seen don't follow the lines of the trigger guard, leaving nasty looking gaps.

The bolt release issue is self-fixable, takes a few minutes with a dremel or file to remove the peak on the bolt release. This lets you engage as normal (a bit easier actually) and release by simply pulling on the bolt, just like any other semi auto wtih the bolt locked open