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Self-Murder?

I just read an article about a young man who was found dead at the base of a tall cliff at the Grand Canyon. The article said the death has been ruled a "self-murder". Huh? I never heard that term before. I guess "suicide" is out of fashion.

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I think a lot of the social media platforms block "suicide" so maybe that's why.

Either that or some completely ridiculous new PC thing.

I hear/see "unalive" a lot these days because I think murder is also often blocked.

Next thing will be "life-challenged"
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For what it's worth, in German, "suicide" is selbstmord, literally "self-murder."
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It's against the law to kill yourself.
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Death by cliff is more considerate than death by cop
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Sorta like how California has “unhoused” people?
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Sorta like how California has “unhoused” people?
Do you have a reference?
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I actually first heard the phrase while staying in the Bay Area this January, they had the local news on in the hotel lobby during breakfast. The stupidity of it took me back. But here’s a website since you asked: https://unhousedca.org/
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Death by cliff is more considerate than death by cop
More like death by gravity. Lol.

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It's against the law to kill yourself.
I have never understood this, I mean, okay who are they gonna arrest?

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^^^^ It's like PPPT these daze

After verifying you are human a few dozen times ... you then can't, and Pelican/Cloudf**k won't let you logoff because you are a bot ... hmmm.

Must be pretzel logic ...
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I have never understood this, I mean, okay who are they gonna arrest?

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I always think of this: you’re so sad and depressed with life you attempt suicide…and fail. Then they arrest you because you failed at suicide. Talk about depressing!
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It's against the law to kill yourself.
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I have never understood this, I mean, okay who are they gonna arrest?

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On a very similar subject, for an excellent read: Over the Edge: Death in Grand Canyon, it's amazing the predicaments people get themselves into. The Grand Canyon is not a forgiving place.

I lived at the South Rim for a year and a half as a helicopter tour pilot and know one of the people mentioned in the book.

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