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I could piss on your leg, sign it and it too would be art. People arbitrarily associate value with the term "art" when they should not.

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I could piss on your leg, sign it and it too would be art. People arbitrarily associate value with the term "art" when they should not.
You've got it! Art is art. It is not necessarily good, or even legal.
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Old 08-01-2008, 09:21 AM
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There is some amazing graffiti out there, some is artistic/art, even if it is illegal. Most is crap. There is likely some that's so good that it's worth keeping.

Still, it can be art, illegal or not.

I saw this myself outside of the building where I work the other day. I took a picture with my phone, but accidentally erased it.



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Old 08-01-2008, 11:06 AM
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Good idea, Lets get them to put their art all over Superman's fences and house. Maybe on his car too. He obviously appreciates it more than we do.









Now that's a shame.
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:37 PM
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:52 PM
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But.....it is art. It is expression.
Expression is the definition of art?

So when a baby cries to express he's hungry, he's an artist?

When a person expresses his jealousy by keying your porsche, that person is an artist?

I express a lot of things. I expressed a 7 pound growler today. You wanna buy some art?
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Expression is the definition of art?

So when a baby cries to express he's hungry, he's an artist?

When a person expresses his jealousy by keying your porsche, that person is an artist?

I express a lot of things. I expressed a 7 pound growler today. You wanna buy some art?
Yes. Again, art is sometimes not pretty. A very high proportion (perhaps all of us, frankly) of us are unaware of the true ratio of rationalism in our lives versus expressionism. Society is not shaped this way because it makes sense. It is shaped this way because that's how we like it. We think we behave rationally, with the occasional act of irrational expression. In reality, it is just the opposite.
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And you believe that most people agree with your definition of art (i.e. that someone keying your car because they are jealous is art)?

Or you recognize that the vast majority of people would disagree with your definition, but they are all just wrong and you're right?
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Being an armature artist (not graffiti) I find Supermans discourse very interesting.

There is some graffiti on display inside art museums.

However this is a random picture thread not a random philosophy thread.

So post some pics folks! (please)

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I think we can all agree this is art...

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I don't know about art but I know what I like.

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And you believe that most people agree with your definition of art (i.e. that someone keying your car because they are jealous is art)?

Or you recognize that the vast majority of people would disagree with your definition, but they are all just wrong and you're right?
I'm not sure what the vast majority would say but I do know this: My definition, THE definition, of art would not change by popular vote. Assuming the vast majority prefers the narrow definition you apply.

Between your post and this one, there were several posters who offered some interesting images. I assume you would dismiss some of them as not being art. But the posters recognized their emotive value.

What is art? What is NOT art? There have been art projects, as art projects, widely reported, where lots of people (You too, I assume) said "That's not art." But........it was the work of an artist, in the middle of a desert, with no other purpose than the artist expressing himself. He creates a visual "thing" with no practical value. And people still say "That's not art." Incorrect. It is art. Perhaps that person does not like it, but it is art.

I think we're still driving piston engine vehicles because of art. It doesn't make sense. If we were not in love with cars, the way they are, we would have sought and found a number of alternatives. It's not logic that keeps piston engine cars as a central piece of our personal lives. We like them. They are comfortable to us. We send messages to others by our choices. We are expressing ourselves in our motoring decisions.

Again, it would be far easier to identify what is NOT art than what is art.
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Old 08-01-2008, 05:16 PM
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This is something I created for a project on another website today. I've been hesitant to post it because I know a few will object to it. But the question is:

Is it art?

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