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What's the colloquial term for a women's penitentiary?
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Old 03-05-2004, 03:58 PM
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Oh Martha's going on an all expense paid vacation to Club Fed. She'll have exciting activities like toilete cleaning, laundry folding and floor mopping to keep her occupied. She'll be introduced to the latest in prison fashions..Prison Grey Smocks. She'll be able to teach her fellow inmates about the intracies of Securities fraud while they teach her the art of forging checks, identity theft and embezzlement. As for extracuricular activities somehow knowing Martha she will probably be the one to wear the strap on.
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This is wonderful news indeed, I just hope that they don't let her remain free on bail pending appeal. That would be a travesty, only the super-rich can do that, everyone else has to appeal while behind bars. I don't think that the feds will give her that option. Did they lock her ass up until sentencing? Fed sentencing guidelines means that you do 85% of your sentence WITH good behavior.
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...equal justice under the law, should we start to believe this after this case? I hope so. Just b/c you're a business celebrity with a billion dollars in your bank account doesn't mean you dont have to follow the same rules that everyone else has to follow....Martha Stewart doesn't have special rights under the law.

Today is black Friday for Martha Stewart, and perhaps she got what she deserved... I just hope there's no lunatic judge out there that will reverse the decision on appeal.
hurray for the "little guy"!

btw, sentencing is scheduled for June 17.....will she be in Jail until that time? Anyone know?
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If I were her I would talk not stop about Bill Clintons Lying to a Federal Grand Jury and not being charged with a crime. She Should Repeat it over and over again as loud as she can. Steve
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If I were her I would talk not stop about Bill Clintons Lying to a Federal Grand Jury and not being charged with a crime. She Should Repeat it over and over again as loud as she can. Steve
good point, Bill Clinton should be behind bars too....same with OJ Simpson, etc.
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I agree with Steve here....I'm not saying she's innocent and the verdict isn't just. But jail time? Today's OREGONIAN carried a front page story...a serial rapist with 17 victims being given a new trial by a liberal judge...the victims are terrified that this guy will get loose. I'll see if I can find a link to the story. But my point? Yeah, she broke the law, she got greedy, grabbed $50K or so...but which "criminal" here is really the worst danger to society???? (edit)...found it...here's the link to the rapist story...the judge was a fed: http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/front_page/107849181848030.xml
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Would everyone agree that as the economic climate deteriorates, crime correspondingly increases? Hence, wouldn't Martha's seemingly 'victimless' crime indirectly result in her being a danger to society? (investors lose confidence, businesses lose money, janitor gets fired, decides to mug old lady, old lady turns out to live in Texas and has the God given right to protect herself, shoots the man, and its all because of Martha). See?
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I bet all the people she walked over & bullied will have a little celebration tonight. I've seen a couple of biography shows about her, seems that family took a backseat to money. She started out as a very beautiful young lady, but evolved into a insatiable money grubbing tyrant.

There is a lot of attention on this case & dear Martha will not get off light. There is to much at stake, & I believe her sentence will reflect such.
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If sentenced, Martha will have to leave the handbag (cost 6K?) home at the mansion.Oh, the horror.
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June 17th is the sentencing date, stay tuned.
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OK, what she did was not that big of a deal and probably anyone of us would do the same if we found out that some stock we held was about to tank. And it wasn't a large amount of dough by anyone's standards. It's more of a case of her arrogance thinking that she can lawyer her way out of it no problem instead of just pleading to something small in the beginning and being over w/ it. Prosecutors don't like it when you don't take their deal, so they clobbered the two of them.

For anyone feeling sympathy for her, from what I've heard she would walk over any one of us to save a buck or get the next cab in the rain. Years ago her ex-husband described her as "a b!tch on wheels", and for some reason I believe him. He's probably laughing his ass off.
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Plus it seems like her lawyers sucked, FWIW. Lame, weak defense. Wonder if she can sue them?
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I don't consider her crime so terribly serious. But if Martha has to do more jail time than she might really deserve, to help set an example for corporate executives, then so be it. The amount of harm that's been inflicted on millions of people by the greed, arrogance, and corruption of corporate managements - think Enron, Adelphia, Tyco, and many smaller examples - is in the hundreds of billions of dollars, and that's just those particular stocks, not counting the harm to the overall market. That's ordinary people who lost a significant part of their assets, retirees who now have to be WalMart greeters, or others who are now going to be on thinner rations in their old age. And meanwhile a lot of CEOs and other top executives paid themselves enormous sums in salary, bonus, and options in return for lousy performance, often concealed with accounting games. As in, more in one year than many of us will earn in a lifetime. Not half enough of them have gone to jail - I'd like to see about a hundred Marthas before the feds lay off.
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