Russian Terror

[R Wilco]

And yet again none of you radical islamic loving forgiving rationalizing MFSB's have explained how your hero's can kill hundreds of kids in one fell swoop. WTF? Explain/rationalize it for all the clueless masses.

[350HP930]

Perhaps if you pulled your head out of your ass you could figure it out on your own.

[dd74]

It is interesting that Putin indirectly blames Bush for the killings in Beslan.

When one thinks about it deductively, Putin may certainly have a point.

[R Wilco]

350 very clever lad you are. You've got the market cornered on this subject obviously.

[Mule]

350 if you are sincere, you are sincerely wrong! Point out for me one other religion that converts at the end of a sword. Point out for me another group of any kind that had inlocted 10% of the death & damage that the muslims have within the last 20 years.

On ramp, if you are sincere, you are insane. Iraq, an non-hostile nation? They were shooting at out aircraft daily. They violated amost every tenent in the cease fire agreement. Put your pointed tin-foil thinking cap on & see if you can solve this tricky question. If a country at war agrees to behave in a particular manner in order to prevent being conquered, then said country reverts to it's previous behavior, what should this country expect?

[on-ramp]

Originally posted by Mule
350 if you are sincere, you are sincerely wrong! Point out for me one other religion that converts at the end of a sword. Point out for me another group of any kind that had inlocted 10% of the death & damage that the muslims have within the last 20 years.

On ramp, if you are sincere, you are insane. Iraq, an non-hostile nation? They were shooting at out aircraft daily. They violated amost every tenent in the cease fire agreement. Put your pointed tin-foil thinking cap on & see if you can solve this tricky question. If a country at war agrees to behave in a particular manner in order to prevent being conquered, then said country reverts to it's previous behavior, what should this country expect?

Iraq was a non-hostile nation to the effect that Saddam was contained, his army was almost non-existent , and they were not capable of causing any harm to their neighbors. it was a very weakened dictatorship. On the other hand, Iran, Syria, North Korea, very different story... W knew that the US casualty count with Iraq would be low, since there would be very little military resistance, and we have seen that. an elephant stepping on an ant. so think before you name-call.

[350HP930]

Originally posted by Mule
350 if you are sincere, you are sincerely wrong! Point out for me one other religion that converts at the end of a sword. Point out for me another group of any kind that had inlocted 10% of the death & damage that the muslims have within the last 20 years.

Well, just to name a few forced conversions here are some christian examples. The inquistion. The conquistators. The changing of the official chuch of england. Catholics -vs- protestants in Ireland.

A christian germany inflicted more damage to the population of the word in only a decade compared to what islam has done during its entire history.

Concidering your ignorance of such basic historical facts I think you need to educate yourself a little before you call people who know better than you wrong.

[Seahawk]

On-ramp,

I need help. I have had a difficult time finding links to the all powerful Iranian and Syrian Army forces that would help me understand what made them a such an effective counterweight to the anemic Iraqi forces.
After all, all Dictatorships rely on fear and intimidation to stay in power...how do Iran and Syria stack up?
Pardon my ignorance.

[Mule]

350 said: "A christian germany inflicted more damage to the population of the word in only a decade compared to what islam has done during its entire history."
Do you really believe that load of crap? The practicioners of the religion of peace killed more people in India alone than Hitler did. And with no modern technology availible, they did it the old fashioned way, with a sword. They would literally ride into a town & cut off heads for days. Allah smackbar. Did that little fact slip by your superior grasp of history?

NEXT "Concidering your ignorance of such basic historical facts I think you need to educate yourself a little before you call people who know better than you wrong."

I don't know wether you just hate Christianity or you are an appologist for the muslims. Either way you'll need to find someone less informed to peddle your load of crap to.

Next "Well, just to name a few forced conversions here are some christian examples. The inquistion. The conquistators. The changing of the official chuch of england. Catholics -vs- protestants in Ireland."

The conquistadors claimed to be working for God. THey were working for gold. Don't believe me? I guess it was coincidence that most of the activity just happened to take place where all the gold was. Sorry but the BS detector went to red line on this one.

The iquisition? Dead assed wrong. Unlike you, I don't have a problem calling a spade a spade. The list of wrongs commited in the name of Christianity is long indeed. But you'll notice that over the centuries, they've mellowed to the point where witch trials & the like are no longer acceptable. In contrast, the practicioners of the religion of peace are comitting heinous and barbaric acts in the name of allah in 2004. Since you are so well versed in history I'm sure you know that this is because they believe that mankind reached it's pinacle in 7th century Arabia and no further development is needed. So if you want to argue facts about the practicioners of the religion of peace, bring it on big boy. But you might want to freshen up on your own knowledge of history first.

About that spanking on ramp?

[Serge914]

Dont worry, Putin said last year that the war was over in Chechnya.

[Mule]

350, if you need some sources for the rest of the story about the practicioners of the religion of peace this may help.

Misconceptions about the Crusades are all too common. Generally portrayed as a series of unprovoked holy wars against Islam, they are supposed to have been the epitome of self-righteousness and intolerance -- a black stain on the history of the Catholic Church in particular and Western, Christian civilization in general. Since September 11, variations of this theme have been used to explain -- even justify -- Muslim terror against the West. Former president Bill Clinton himself, in a speech at Georgetown University, fingered Muslim anger at the Crusades as the "root cause" of the present conflict.

But the truth is that the Crusades had nothing to do with colonialism or unprovoked aggression -- and in A Concise History of the Crusades, renowned medieval historian Thomas F. Madden sets the record straight. The Crusades, he shows, were not the brainchild of an ambitious pope or rapacious knights but a response to more than four centuries of conquests in which Muslims had already captured two thirds of the old Christian world. At some point, Christianity as a faith and a culture had to defend itself or be subsumed by Islam. The Crusades were that defense. Their entire subsequent history is one of Western reaction to Muslim advances -- they were no more offensive than was the American invasion of Normandy.

Get hundreds of "politically incorrect" facts like these:

• Islam was born in war and grew the same way. From the time of Mohammed, the means of Muslim expansion was always the sword.

• With enormous energy, the warriors of Islam struck out against the Christians shortly after Mohammed's death. Palestine, Syria, and Egypt -- once the most heavily Christian areas in the world -- quickly succumbed.

• By the eighth century, Muslim armies had conquered all of Christian North Africa and Spain. In the eleventh century, the Seljuk Turks conquered Asia Minor (modern Turkey), which had been Christian since the time of St. Paul.

• The Byzantine Empire was reduced to little more than Greece. In desperation, the emperor in Constantinople sent word to the Christians of western Europe asking them to aid their brothers and sisters in the East.

• The end of the medieval Crusades did not bring an end to Muslim jihad -- Islamic states like Mamluk Egypt continued to expand in size and power, and the Ottoman Turks built the largest and most awesome state in Muslim history.

• Under Suleiman the Magnificent the Turks came within a hair's breadth of capturing Vienna, which would have left all of Germany at their mercy. At that point Crusades were no longer waged to rescue Jerusalem, but Europe itself.

• It is often asserted that Crusaders were merely lacklands and ne'er-do-wells who took advantage of an opportunity to rob and pillage in a faraway land. Recent scholarship has demolished that contrivance. The truth is that the Crusades were notoriously bad for plunder. A few people got rich, but the vast majority returned with nothing.

• The Ottoman Turks conquered not only their fellow Muslims, thus further unifying Islam, but also continued to press westward, capturing Constantinople and plunging deep into Europe itself. By the 15th century, the Crusades were no longer errands of mercy for a distant people but desperate attempts of one of the last remnants of Christendom to survive. Europeans began to ponder the real possibility that Islam would finally achieve its aim of conquering the entire Christian world.

• In 1529, Suleiman the Magnificent laid siege to Vienna. If not for a run of freak rainstorms that delayed his progress and forced him to leave behind much of his artillery, it is virtually certain that the Turks would have taken the city.

• Whether we admire the Crusaders or not, it is a fact that the world we know today would not exist without their efforts. Without the Crusades, Christianity might well have followed Zoroastrianism, another of Islam's rivals, into extinction.

Filled with dozens of maps, illustrations, and photographs
A Concise History of the Crusades
by Thomas F. Madden

The Sword of the Prophet
by Serge Trifkovic


"The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam"


Since the attacks of September 11, dozens of books have been rushed to market purporting to "explain" the religion in whose name the terrorists acted. Most of them strike a common theme: "true" Islam -- as opposed to the "fundamentalist" variety of the hijackers -- is a "religion of peace" that promotes charity, tolerance, freedom, and culture no less than "true" Christianity.

To correct this, Trifkovic gives us the unvarnished, "politically incorrect" truth about Islam -- including the shocking facts about its founder, Mohammed; its rise through bloody conquest; its sanctioning of theft, deceit, lust and murder; its persecutions of Christians, Jews, Hindus and other "infidels"; its cruel mistreatment of women; the colossal myth of its cultural "golden age"; its irreformable commitment to global conquest by any means necessary; the broad sweep of the military, political, moral, and spiritual struggle that faces us; and what we must do if we wish to survive.

[flyenby]

MUSLIMS are like the KLAN ,they kill if you dont agree withTHEIR ass backward views,and sick religion, F**K THEM ALL,BEFORE THEY DO US

[SteveStromberg]

I think that the Ruskies are going to Wipe out ALL the muslims they can.

[CamB]

Originally posted by Serge914
Dont worry, Putin said last year that the war was over in Chechnya.

Yeah, good point... how long has Northern Ireland been a problem (and that's cultural too, not religious).

[bryanthompson]

Originally posted by 350HP930
Well, just to name a few forced conversions here are some christian examples. The inquistion. The conquistators. The changing of the official chuch of england. Catholics -vs- protestants in Ireland.

A christian germany inflicted more damage to the population of the word in only a decade compared to what islam has done during its entire history.

Concidering your ignorance of such basic historical facts I think you need to educate yourself a little before you call people who know better than you wrong.

Interestingly, the Spanish Inquisition went on for 350 years. A total of 30,000 people were killed. That's an average of 85.7 people per year. Bad things were done, yadda yadda yadda, but it doesn't even hold a candle to palestinian suicide bombers or genocide in sudan or rwanda, south africa, geeze, should I go on?

But, christians are the big criminals of the world.

Any guess on how many babies have been killed since Roe Vs. Wade? over 40 million. Who'se trying to stop those abortions, oh yeah, christians.

I don't understand the Left's want to kill babies or terrorists need to strap explosives to their bodies and kill innocent people.

[350HP930]

Some estimates put the numbers of people killed by the Spanish Inquisition in the millions but I see from your post you prefer to believe the low ball numbers pumped out by the catholic church.

[Mule]

350, come on big boy, adress my numbers! Well over 15 million were killed by the peace loving muslims in India alone. Hello, hello, are you still there?

[RickM]

Just heard that some Russians may be partly responsible for the school massacre. Seems some security staff may have been bribed to allow two large truckloads of militants through two or more check points.