I though I was the propaganda guy and Flint was the delusions of grandeur guy?

Nah..len.. You aren't even in the same league. Sometimes you even make sense!!

Cheers!!!!!

I'm pretty sure I was propaganda guy..............hmm we did recast last month, maybe missed a memo.

holy crap...these people are quite...umm....something:

WE BELIEVE the White, Anglo-Saxon, Germanic and kindred people to be God's true, literal Children of Israel. Only this race fulfills every detail of Biblical Prophecy and World History concerning Israel and continues in these latter days to be heirs and possessors of the Covenants, Prophecies, Promises and Blessings YHVH God made to Israel. This chosen seedline making up the "Christian Nations" (Gen. 35:11; Isa. 62:2; Acts 11:26) of the earth stands far superior to all other peoples in their call as God's servant race (Isa. 41:8, 44:21; Luke 1:54). Only these descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel scattered abroad (James 1:1; Deut. 4:27; Jer. 31:10; John 11:52) have carried God's Word, the Bible, throughout the world (Gen. 28:14; Isa. 43:10-12, 59:21), have used His Laws in the establishment of their civil governments and are the "Christians" opposed by the Satanic Anti-Christ forces of this world who do not recognize the true and living God (John 5:23, 8:19, 16:2-3).

WE BELIEVE in an existing being known as the Devil or Satan and called the Serpent (Gen. 3:1; Rev. 12:9), who has a literal "seed" or posterity in the earth (Gen. 3:15) commonly called Jews today (Rev. 2:9; 3:9; Isa. 65:15). These children of Satan (John 8:44-47; Matt. 13:38; John 8:23) through Cain (I John 2:22, 4:3) who have throughout history always been a curse to true Israel, the Children of God, because of a natural enmity between the two races (Gen. 3:15), because they do the works of their father the Devil (John 8:38-44), and because they please not God, and are contrary to all men (I Thes. 2:14-15), though they often pose as ministers of righteousness (II Cor. 11:13-15). The ultimate end of this evil race whose hands bear the blood of our Savior (Matt. 27:25) and all the righteous slain upon the earth (Matt. 23:35), is Divine judgment (Matt. 13:38-42, 15:13; Zech. 14:21).

WE BELIEVE that the Man Adam (a Hebrew word meaning: ruddy, to show Blood, flush, turn rosy) is father of the White Race only. As a son of God (Luke 3:38), made in His likeness (Gen. 5:1), Adam and his descendants, who are also the children of God (Psalm 82:6; Hos. 1:10; Rom. 8:16; Gal. 4:6; I John 3:1-2), can know YHVH God as their creator. Adamic man is made trichotomous, that is, not only of body and soul, but having an implanted spirit (Gen. 2:7; I Thes. 5:23; Heb. 4:12) giving him a higher form of consciousness and distinguishing him from all the other races of the earth (Deut. 7:6, 10:15; Amos 3:2).

no joel. you actually put forward your own arguments and strive for a discussion.

LOL, the truth is I rarely if ever disagree with these guys. I do occasionally think we reach the same conclusions via different roads, but the basic beliefs are the same.

When it comes to research I am the Thomas to their Scalia, I pirate much:) Seriously though I don't know where they get it all.

I want to expand on this a bit.....


I sometimes feel Flint, Mule and Bryan come to certain understandings or stances or beliefs at least partially because of their faith. I on the other hand am not at all religious and come to the same conclusions via common sense and study of human nature. Interesting to say the least.

Flint, Mule, and Bryan, if I put words in your mouths or mis-characterized you in any way I apologize and please correct me.

Ha ha! This is probably the most preposterous thing I've read on the internet this summer, and that is saying a lot!

Do you have any idea how many Muslims are in Saudi Arabia? In the Middle East as a whole? Compare that to India. Compare it to Turkey and the 'Stans. There are more Muslims in China than in Saudi Arabia. Same with Nigeria. And get this, they are all indigenous.

Why do you feel the need to make **** up? It makes you seem really dumb.

And I think it is wrong to invade Iraq based on my faith.

So does the Pope (I'm Catholic), although that didn't influence me.

I'm quite confused abou the whole "Arab sounding names" deal. We've got an Iraqi youth group at my Church, and they have Arab sounding names. Can someone please help me figure out if they're actually Muslim :rolleyes:

Ubiquity - thanks for pointing out the Tamil Tigers are actually Sri Lankan. And not Muslim.

I came across this recently - a summary of an analysis of suicide attacks. The author of the book thinks that Islam is not the common denominator:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bw/20050706/bs_bw/nf20050767420db056

Not sure that I 100% agree, but it makes for thought-provoking reading.

This is serious equipment - four outboards!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1121207254.jpg

Close, Mule. The all look the same, dont they? Check again, the Tamils might be from one of those 'stans.

Yes. Im laughing at you, Im afraid.

"LTTE Sea Tigers off Mullaitivu in May 2004. The light fast attack fiberglass boats have proved highly effective against the Sri Lanka Navy. This boat has an all-female crew."

...do I detect an upcoming Playboy pictorial?

So, nostatic..certain christain sects can be just as scary as any other extremist sect.

I do not know any rational mainstream christains who advocate terror and murder as a way of resolving problems (political arguments like Northern Ireland aside)..At least not since equal rights have been enforced as the law of the land...BTW...that in itself shows the influence of federal government that in rare situatons has to legislate behavior. Seems as if there are people who have to be coerced into behaving even in America..


BTW..mule....

en.wikipedia.org/Tamil_Tigers

interesting . . . some have FINALLY found something . . .one thing, that mule didn't get right.

You left of right guys are just giddy over this. Sheesh you guys (and CC) are proven wrong all the time, but sheesh, we don't make near as big of a deal about it.


hmmm, one refuted item ....What does that say about the volumes of unrefuted info, mule has posted here?

You can decide that they're not mainstream, but many mainstream fundamentalists might see the rationale in their behavior:

http://www.Westborobaptistchurch.com

http://www.armyofgod.com/

http://www.kingidentity.com/cjc.html

Remember, many people contributed to (the terrorist) Eric Rudolph remaining at large for over five years.

I dunno... That it's not worth refuting? That it is nonsense and therefore incapable of refutation? :) Hey, I just started playing this game; I don't know anything of Mule's past, and I'm not taking sides between the right and left.

That these reflect a certain geopolitical view which is based on misinformation, myopia, ignorance and a sincerely held, but largely inaccurate dogma that does not stand the slightest critical examination?

But thats just a wild guess.

I'm definitely taking sides, but I have not seen much 'info.'

I wonder what in particular would be so compelling I'd be interested in spending the 20 seconds of research it's taken me, on average, to debunk?

it's like a bunch of 5th graders just listened to the teacher mis-speak. . . pointing to Canada and saying Mexico.

"teehee teehee . . Mr Mule thinks Mexico is in Canada. . .heeheehee ..."

Okay, that one is easy to refute. Got any other gems?