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Oh...I don't know about that:


And you don't think Bush is the master of rhetoric? Ok, so he's too stupid to be the master of anything. But he has masters of rhetoric working for him. You know, that guy that got away with exposing the CIA agent for example.

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Clearly is is mush smarter than you and you will never go as far as he has. He is the President, being in front of a camera is part of his job. You sir are The Master-of-Bation with this crap you regurgitate from move-on

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He may be but he was elected by the majority of the population of this country.

Cindy is a pawn and a fool and not elected by anyone. She is being used and pushed into the media and in time the truth will come out.

What its doing to the GI's overseas is what hurts. They need to know that the majority of us do not feel this way, no matter what the frigging liberal media polls show.

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Maybe the second time around.

But I disagree with your take on what it does to the men overseas. Our local Guard unit just went over and I know people in it. Not everybody is all that glad to be there. And I expect the discontent will increase with time.

And why does she have to be a pawn? She lost a son in your side's war. Doesn't she deserve a say without ridicule and scorn? I say she's earned it.

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Clearly is is mush smarter than you and you will never go as far as he has. He is the President, being in front of a camera is part of his job. You sir are The Master-of-Bation with this crap you regurgitate from move-on
I did manage better than a 2.35 by almost a full point. But then I suppose Yale is just that much harder than the University of Texas.

And I certainly won't go as far as he has, either. But, if I had a dad that could do as much as his did for him, who knows? Maybe I could have been a lying SOB, too.

Oddly enough, I have only looked at moveon.org once or twice. But some of us try to think independently. You should try it.


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I did manage better than a 2.35 by almost a full point. But then I suppose Yale is just that much harder than the University of Texas.

And I certainly won't go as far as he has, either. But, if I had a dad that could do as much as his did for him, who knows? Maybe I could have been a lying SOB, too.

Oddly enough, I have only looked at moveon.org once or twice. But some of us try to think independently. You should try it.


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Sure, you just speak their crap word for word, and I live in a military town, have many military friends, both active and retired, you the guys who CHOSE a career defending this country, not in there just for the money, guys who where there for Gulf 1, and went back for seconds and many of my PCA friends who serve, and they, were proud to be there and the way the military families vote also show that they believe in what we are doing. I guess non other the kennedys' father helped them, nor did gore's daddy, but at least President Bush has worked in the private sector

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But the question is, what if she wasn't? Does that make her efforts less partisan?
If she wasn't a moveon.org whore and she hadn't already met with Bush, then I'd think she was just a grieving woman who is was going about it in the wrong way, which would be sad, not pathetic. The way she is, she's a pathetic media whore for the most extreme leftists. I don't think it's her fault, I think she probably (hopefully) started out as just a grieving mom who fell in with the wrong crowd. I don't think it's entirely her fault that this happened to her.
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Sure, you just speak their crap word for word, and I live in a military town, have many military friends, both active and retired, you the guys who CHOSE a career defending this country, not in there just for the money, guys who where there for Gulf 1, and went back for seconds and many of my PCA friends who serve, and they, were proud to be there and the way the military families vote also show that they believe in what we are doing. I guess non other the kennedys' father helped them, nor did gore's daddy, but at least President Bush has worked in the private sector
I see. So you now minimalize the contribution of the Guard units? Again, if anybody (individual or group) dare speak out in dissent, regardless of their contribution to this war, they become targets and lose support from conservatives.

And I'm fully aware that there are dedicated people in our armed forces who enjoy what they do. I only said not everybody feels good about being there.

Now about that Kennedy thing you mentioned. I'd be disappointed if families didn't help each other and utilize the resources at hand. But, you must have missed the part where it was said I'd never go as far as W. No ****. Not with his connections. That was my point.

And while the Kenedy's may not have been involved in the private sector, Joe's boys went to war. One was killed, the other became a war hero and President.

We all know what George's son did.

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Face it...now that she is a paid to speak.. she really is a media whore. Anyone who would make a career of her son's death...and her campaign to disgrace his memory is pretty pathetic.
Actually, it appears that, like all liberals (socialists or communists)she is certainly a capitalist when the situation presents itself. She has already admitted that she really did not want to talk to GW...it did not fit her agenda. Face it, Katrina was getting all the attention...this is just a publicity stunt to keep herself marketable.
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I don't understand all the fuss about communists. Man, even W doesn't drag out that old saw. It's so...1980's.

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An interesting C&P

Fw: Interesting & unreported facts about Cindy Sheehan


Subject: About Cindy Sheehan
What is most interesting to me is that the press gives this
little bunch of people who are protesting with Cindy so much air time
without discussing Cindy's background. This is a case of more press bias. It has
been pointed out on just a couple of media outlets that Cindy divorced her
first husband and left her son with him to be raised while she became a
political activist for the Democratic Party. She had very little to do with her son
in his growing years. She remarried. The 1st husband remarried. The
original father raised the son with his new wife. They miss their son and mourn
the loss of his life. They have stated that they are very proud of their son
and that they agree with the stance of America in Iraq and on terror. They
said that their son was eager to serve and to go fight the terrorists in Iraq.
He volunteered. How many news stations carried their interview? Not many.
So the son dies in Iraq and then Cindy shows up to make a stink. She gets an
audience with Bush. That was not enough. She goes to Crawford and demands
another audience. How many news stations carry the ongoing saga of Cindy?
Practically all of them. Cindy didn't care about her son. She let another
woman raise him. Cindy doesn't care about the other soldiers in Iraq. Cindy
cares about her liberal, feminist agenda and about using the death of her son
to lobby against Republicans and Bush. And the press is helping her. Why?
Then 2 days ago, Cindy's 2nd husband filed for a divorce from Cindy. Cindy
sounds like a feminist opportunist who did not have the sense of
responsibility to even raise her own son. It looks like her 2nd husband is fed up with
Cindy. We middle Americans should be fed up with Cindy also. We should be
fed up with the press. They manipulate us into their "group think" and into
the responses that they want on their polls. H. A. Brown
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I don't know how to gauge what impact she's having on the enemy or our soldiers but all in all she's not as bad as Hanoi Jane Fonda.
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An interesting C&P

Fw: Interesting & unreported facts about Cindy Sheehan


Subject: About Cindy Sheehan
What is most interesting to me is that the press gives this
little bunch of people who are protesting with Cindy so much air time
without discussing Cindy's background. This is a case of more press bias. It has
been pointed out on just a couple of media outlets that Cindy divorced her
first husband and left her son with him to be raised while she became a
political activist for the Democratic Party. She had very little to do with her son
in his growing years. She remarried. The 1st husband remarried. The
original father raised the son with his new wife. They miss their son and mourn
the loss of his life. They have stated that they are very proud of their son
and that they agree with the stance of America in Iraq and on terror. They
said that their son was eager to serve and to go fight the terrorists in Iraq.
He volunteered. How many news stations carried their interview? Not many.
So the son dies in Iraq and then Cindy shows up to make a stink. She gets an
audience with Bush. That was not enough. She goes to Crawford and demands
another audience. How many news stations carry the ongoing saga of Cindy?
Practically all of them. Cindy didn't care about her son. She let another
woman raise him. Cindy doesn't care about the other soldiers in Iraq. Cindy
cares about her liberal, feminist agenda and about using the death of her son
to lobby against Republicans and Bush. And the press is helping her. Why?
Then 2 days ago, Cindy's 2nd husband filed for a divorce from Cindy. Cindy
sounds like a feminist opportunist who did not have the sense of
responsibility to even raise her own son. It looks like her 2nd husband is fed up with
Cindy. We middle Americans should be fed up with Cindy also. We should be
fed up with the press. They manipulate us into their "group think" and into
the responses that they want on their polls. H. A. Brown
Snopes.com claims all that to be false. Again, that's what Snopes claims...
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sheehan.asp
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"The piece quoted above, criticizing Ms. Sheehan's alleged lack of involvement in her son's upbringing after divorcing his father, is something fabricated out of whole cloth, evidently the product of someone's confusing a completely different family with the Sheehans. Cindy Sheehan and her husband, Patrick, were high school sweethearts who wed while both were in their early 20's and who have been married to each other for over 28 years. (Neither has ever been married to anyone else.) The couple had four children together, of whom Casey was the oldest. Both parents raised Casey together, first in the southern California community of Norwalk and later in the northern California town of Vacaville, where the Sheehans moved when Casey was 14. ...blah, blah, blah, ............"
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She could not have had much influence since he was a patriot...and she is.....what she is.
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An interesting C&P

Fw: Interesting & unreported facts about Cindy Sheehan


Subject: About Cindy Sheehan
What is most interesting to me is that the press gives this
little bunch of people who are protesting with Cindy so much air time
without discussing Cindy's background. This is a case of more press bias. It has
been pointed out on just a couple of media outlets that Cindy divorced her
first husband and left her son with him to be raised while she became a
political activist for the Democratic Party. She had very little to do with her son
in his growing years. She remarried. The 1st husband remarried. The
original father raised the son with his new wife. They miss their son and mourn
the loss of his life. They have stated that they are very proud of their son
and that they agree with the stance of America in Iraq and on terror. They
said that their son was eager to serve and to go fight the terrorists in Iraq.
He volunteered. How many news stations carried their interview? Not many.
So the son dies in Iraq and then Cindy shows up to make a stink. She gets an
audience with Bush. That was not enough. She goes to Crawford and demands
another audience. How many news stations carry the ongoing saga of Cindy?
Practically all of them. Cindy didn't care about her son. She let another
woman raise him. Cindy doesn't care about the other soldiers in Iraq. Cindy
cares about her liberal, feminist agenda and about using the death of her son
to lobby against Republicans and Bush. And the press is helping her. Why?
Then 2 days ago, Cindy's 2nd husband filed for a divorce from Cindy. Cindy
sounds like a feminist opportunist who did not have the sense of
responsibility to even raise her own son. It looks like her 2nd husband is fed up with
Cindy. We middle Americans should be fed up with Cindy also. We should be
fed up with the press. They manipulate us into their "group think" and into
the responses that they want on their polls. H. A. Brown
Wow. There is propaganda, then there is garbage like this. Just a steaming pile of schit, pulled straight out of some fascist's ass. Nice. Real nice. You should truly be ashamed, but I know that you're not.
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Wow. There is propaganda, then there is garbage like this. Just a steaming pile of schit, pulled straight out of some fascist's ass. Nice. Real nice. You should truly be ashamed, but I know that you're not.
I know you know fascism is the kissing cousin of communism don't you Denis?...You do know, I trust, that the platform of Hitler and Mussolini are nearly indistinguishable from that of the Democrat party right?...Right down to self-hating Jews, anti-semitism, public education, control of the media, and everything else except extermination camps (FDR didn't kill the Japs, so I do not count him).

That said, we can argue all day (although I would win) that fascism has similarities to the Republican party, or not, but at the end of the argument we would have to both agree that communism makes fascism look like lightweight totalitarianism...Guess which party leans hard in the direction of communism, Denis?...Now be honest!...Go to the CPUSA website and you will see a platform that looks just like, or very similar to, yours.
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You know what, I am glad to see this bithc arrested for violating our laws. Maybe now she will shut the hell up! God knows she isn't the only person to lose a loved one in the war.
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