Government spying - Page 15

Mulhollanddose · 12-31-2005, 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by fastpat
There was NO direct or indirect relationship between the government or agents of the government of Iraq and the perpetrators of the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. There never was such a relationship, in point of fact the Iraqi government interdicted numberous Al Qaeda attempts to kill or disrupt the Iraqi government or members of that government.

Why do I get this picture in my mind of fastpat morphing into a whipped puppy tucking his tail between his legs and running off into the distance squealing "eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr!!!!" ?

RoninLB · 12-31-2005, 08:36 AM

some believe the war on terror is a game we can opt out of.

Mulhollanddose · 12-31-2005, 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by speeder
I'm really hurt by that, Jason, have I ever been a fair weather friend to you? I always thought that I go out of my way to let people here know that you are my friend, at the risk of alienating some, which of course I could care less.

You misunderestimate me, Denis. On this issue and this issue alone (Bush-hatred) you lefties and the lefty intelligentsia (lol) agree with fastpat...Then shortly thereafter ya'll go your separate ways...He back to my side and yours aiming at his and mine.

Rest assured, when push comes to punch (in the ideological arena), fastpat and I are much closer allies than you and the leftists EVER will be (unless he is just a commie in rabid sheep's clothing--which I am beginning to entertain).

speeder · speeder's Garage

Actually, I think that he echoes my views on the Iraq invasion to a "T". I am not a pacifist, or a "liberal", though I really don't mind being called one by Bush supporters, and I am not a hardcore Libertarian but I respect their viewpoint if it is intellectually honest.

I believe in the UN, flawed as it is, because it is the only organisation of its kind that brings all nations together at one table on a regular basis, including sworn enemies. It does have massive potential for avoiding wars and maintaining peace, if member nations abide by the charters that they agreed to. I completely agree that Iraq broke their agreement w/ the UN, but as Pat correctly pointed out, they did not have any separate agreement w/ the U.S. Using the U.N. as justification for invading Iraq while ignoring its ruling at the same time truly does not pass the straight face test in a way that I have never seen in my lifetime from our government. You would expect this level of diplomatic integrity from a 4th world tinpan despot. That is what I think of Bush, Cheney and the rest of the asshat-wearing neocons.

fastpat · 12-31-2005, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by speeder
Pat, You are a great American. How do you like that 6.0 Powerstroke?

It's a pretty nice truck, really came into its own when I towed 10,900 pounds of trailer, boat, and other "things" in the boat across country from CA to South Carolina last October. All in all, it's pretty good. I ordered it from a dealership, first time I've spec'd out a vehicle before buying new.

There is a problem with it though, mine has developed the rather infamous rear main seal leak that 2003 and early 2004 models seem to have all too often. Bad considering the truck has less than 20k miles on it. There were reports that some 6.0 powerstrokes had the problem as they sat on the dealers lot. I'll have it fixed soon, just need the time to trot it to the dealership five miles away.

fastpat · 12-31-2005, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Why do I get this picture in my mind of fastpat morphing into a whipped puppy tucking his tail between his legs and running off into the distance squealing "eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr eyr!!!!" ?

Yeah, just before you wake up.

Mulhollanddose · 12-31-2005, 12:29 PM

Checkmate in one move.

fastpat · 12-31-2005, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by RoninLB
some believe the war on terror is a game we can opt out of.

First, there is no war on terror; second if you want terrorism to stop, demand the US government stop participating in it; third, demand the US government protect America and only America; and last but not the end of this list, demand that the US government cease providing foreign aid to any country that conducts aggression and terrorist activities against another country.

Those would be a very good start, and better than a zero sum game.

lendaddy · 12-31-2005, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by fastpat
and last but not the end of this list, demand that the US government cease providing foreign aid to any country that conducts aggression and terrorist activities against another country.

Can you show me where in the Constitution the Federal government is granted the power to distribute my money to other countries at all, regardless of their affliations?

fastpat · 12-31-2005, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Checkmate in one move.

Again, when you dream, M-dose, dream big. You really don't know how silly and childish you appear out here, do you?

Rodeo · 12-31-2005, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Checkmate in one move.

About as convincing as "Mission Accomplished"

Mulhollanddose · 12-31-2005, 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by fastpat
Again, when you dream, M-dose, dream big. You really don't know how silly and childish you appear out here, do you?

From the other side of the looking glass, I am sure everything looks a little strange. [/Doors When your strange]

speeder · speeder's Garage

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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
Checkmate in one move.

Just posturing and jibberish. (Beegees "Jive Talking" playing in background).

This your chance to debate head-up, like I said. People are watching, (I estimate 10 Pelican lurkers for every poster in OT, at least). What choo got, boy?

Mulhollanddose · 12-31-2005, 02:02 PM

Res ipsa loquitor.

snowman · 12-31-2005, 02:13 PM

Mul,

THose lefties, democrats and commies all must be smoking the same loco weed. They keep saying how strange or childish the rest of us look.

Mulhollanddose · 12-31-2005, 02:29 PM

When you aint got the facts, attack the messenger...I don't blame the minions, they are just pawns, or as "Uncle Joe" used to call them "useful idiots."

speeder · speeder's Garage

So why then are you attacking the messenger? (FastPat). Debate the points.

snowman · 12-31-2005, 02:44 PM

Mul,
well put.

Mulhollanddose · 12-31-2005, 02:44 PM

You cannot reason with the unreasonable..."Contempt prior to investigation will leave a man (fastpat) in everlasting ignorance."

Mulhollanddose · 12-31-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by snowman
Mul,
well put.

Never try to teach a pig to sing; you waste your time and you annoy the pig.

But is sure is fun poking 'em with a stick.