Black Americans.....

[Jims5543]

Talking wrong saying things like, I cannot think of all the stuff I tend to ignore it.

Who dis is?

What choo sayin?

Oh no she didn't just go thair?

[Mulhollanddose]

Liberalism is the black problem...The moment they start voting conservative it seems they evolve into a more sophisticated manifestation.

[gaijindabe]

Originally posted by widebody911

Going out further on the non-PC limb, the observation needs to be made that this 'dialect' is deliberate - it's one thing to be fresh off the boat from Elbonia with an accent nobody can understand, and quite another to conciously perpetuate it for several generations.

It is an identity thing. They like being who they are. Harvard grads and wanna-be gangsters in Brooklyn have their own deliberate dialects as well...

[Jeff Higgins]

And the Miss Ebonics Pageant still only attracts 49 entrants. Seems no one wants to be Miss "I da hoe".

[dd74]

Originally posted by fintstone
The are just competing with the illegal Hispanics to determine who will be the "true" minority culture. The Illegals have their own language....so the blacks need one too. The question I have is how they can wear trousers that come to the lower part of the buttocks...and have them stay up. Sort of defies the laws of physics (in addition to the laws of fashion and good taste).

Invention of language to solidify one's social standing? Well, possibly that could be the argument for ebonics. But so many intellectual blacks firmly entrenched in education, business and politics squelched that idea, that it never saw the light of day.

I can't see eubonics as a response to Spanish, which is the language spoken by the stereotype of what we believe illegals to be. Spanish stems from Latin, which is one of the oldest languages known to man. Ebonics has no credibility in a social situation to that of Spanish or Latin.

From my point of view, ebonics is a response to laziness and/or an inability to learn proper Americanized English.

[pmajka]

[notfarnow]

Originally posted by gaijindabe
It is an identity thing. They like being who they are. Harvard grads and wanna-be gangsters in Brooklyn have their own deliberate dialects as well...

Good point. Kinda like the local country music singer who somehow acquired a Texas accent in rural New Brunswick.

More of an affectation than an accent.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by pmajka

That is funny. I used to live next to some liberals, I had a St. Bernard that barked at a black house guest they had...they reflexively, ignorantly, like a liberal naturally would, said the dog was a racist...true story.

I suppose the above cartoon would symbolically have the democrats/media as the old lady and the black suckers the little dog on the leash.

Hey yo yo dawg. What iz dis here exporting sheeit you'r jivin' about. You homies iz importing dis here crap. Jus' like Orenthawl James.

I'm mortified an' sheeit. what 'chew trippin foo'

[widebody911]

So whatever happened to the Shizzolator? Looks like it's defunct. Or is that 'Da funked"?

[island_dude]

>Liberalism is the black problem...The moment they start voting ?>conservative it seems they evolve into a more sophisticated >manifestation.

I guess you mean folks like Claude Allen? There is a upstanding class act. Good Conservative born again values too...

[Rikao4]

me iyes be illin vromm riedin dis dread, later
Rika

[lendaddy]

Sheeet Foo, crackas always be up in my bidness, trizyin to catch me rollin dirty.

[Mulhollanddose]

Originally posted by island_dude
I guess you mean folks like Claude Allen? There is a upstanding class act. Good Conservative born again values too...

Claude Allen?...That the best you have?...If Mr. Allen was a Democrat, within the Democrat party, he would be moved up the food chain and probably elected to some local office...This will not happen in the Republican party, although his crimes blush next to his liberal counterparts like Jefferson.

Did you happen to see that hard hitting exposee of Bill Clinton and Sandy Berger?...You know, the one where they are grilled for stealing documents from the National Archives, defrauding the 9-11 investigation....(not off topic--Bill Clinton was the first black president).

[JSDSKI]

Are all you guys really this cranky ?

You sound like the preachers who burned Presley records while screaming about levis, ducktails, switchblades, gangfights, and leather jackets .... oh yea and hotrodders, too.... breakin' the law, breakin the law.....

[livi]

Stijn! Where you at ?

We need some of the comments from the movie in your avatar!

[Burnin' oil]

Man, am I tired of hearing about distinctions based on race.

[pmajka]

i agree, there is more out there than racism:

racism
sexism
feminism
bipedalism
bicoastalism
ageism
speciesism
stupidicism
criticism

[MRM]

Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
Sorry, Victor. It's not all of us; really, it's not. Most of us are actually as befuddled by this as you are. For some reason, stupid, uneducated, (and sometimes even violent) = cool right now. I can't figure it out either.

It's not a new phenomenon. It makes it easier to think of it as an updated Beverly Hillbillies. I heard a serious sociologist (are there any other kind) expound on how the Beverly Hillbillies satisfied a niche in the American psyche where the common man knows better than his "betters". And no, no one older than about 23 really understand anything they're saying.

[dd74]

To get back to Victor's question, as someone else said, it's the programming. On television and in the movies these days, you're going to see the absolute lowest common denominator of story and characters coming from the big studios. Parlaying that are the Aussies, who have been the envy of U.S. filmmakers since before Mad Max, and that movie is fairly linear compared to others like Smash Palace or Alice to Nowhere, etc.

When you have to sit and sort through in your head what the Iced Cube/Iced Tea/Snoop Doggy crap says, let alone what it means, I think you'll just frustrate yourself long after realizing no matter what, you've just wasted an hour or two of your life.


EDIT: not Stuart J, but Victor.