Save NPR & PBS (again) - Page 2

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

PBS and NPR were supposed to be "un-biased". They never were and are not now. The time for a government supported alternative is gone. I see as good or better programing on the History channel and all of the other channels we have on cable.

I would be all for PBS/NPR becoming a fully pay as you go, donation only, place.

lendaddy · 06-09-2006, 04:29 AM

All this education on the left and they still don't know what pompous means nor understand why it is not a desirous trait.

Moses · 06-09-2006, 05:42 AM

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Originally posted by HardDrive
Whats the f*cking point in having a US government anymore?

Get rid of the arts, get rid of all the social programs, get rid of all the research.

Lets just slide back into dark ages where wealth and brutality rule the land.

So...before there was public funding of the arts we were in the dark ages? WTF? Ever heard of the renaissance? Some pretty nice art produced without TAX MONEY. Good art is self sustaining. Always has been.

PBS will survive quite nicely without my tax dollars. They have an appreciative audience and produce some quality programming. In order to bring their work to the marketplace they may be forced into some awful compromises like (gasp!) selling advertising.

ubiquity0 · 06-09-2006, 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by Moses
So...before there was public funding of the arts we were in the dark ages? WTF? Ever heard of the renaissance? Some pretty nice art produced without TAX MONEY. Good art is self sustaining. Always has been.

PBS will survive quite nicely without my tax dollars. They have an appreciative audience and produce some quality programming. In order to bring their work to the marketplace they may be forced into some awful compromises like (gasp!) selling advertising.

I think you mean that some pretty nice art was produced without FEDERAL TAX MONEY?

The Renaissance ruling classes' pursuit of art became something of a competition between city states to commission the finest pieces. These rulers used TAXES (extortion?) to pay for it!!!

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

It always bothered me that the fed. gov't. wouldn't subsidize me when I played in a band and we weren't good enough to get signed to a major label. Whaaaaaa! It's not fair! Why does any "art" get subsidized? If it can't survive on its own, let it die. And does anyone really believe we will lose "opposing viewpoints" if PBS and NPR go private? Last I checked, there still plenty of Bush haters on network news.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

Tcar, I've heard that too. But what drives me nuts is the uproar and demagoguery every time privatizing NPR or PBS the others, NEH and NEA gets mentioned. If NPR is 98% privately funded, then the 2% they're getting is corporate welfare. I wonder what their tax situation is.

BGCarrera32 · 06-09-2006, 07:08 AM

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Originally posted by HardDrive
We can puke out half a TRILLION dollars because the frat boy f*ckwit we elected president gets a stick in his ass about Sadam, and we can't spend a few million to bring arts and culture into peoples homes?

I live in Seattle so that I can forget that 90% of the country are inbred morons. Please stop reminding me.

Yeah, I'm an a55hole. Sue me.

Definitely the LEAST intelligent thind I've read on this forum all month.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

Yeah, it's a shame some folks have a computer, when their time would be better spent getting a GED or preparing my meals for me.

cowtown · 07:37 AM

NPR needs to go to a subscription-only model, or go fully commercial, and then sink or swim. It's ridiculous that it's even partially gov't funded. What public need does it fulfill that is not offered by private networks and their 86 cable news channels? We pay for those (by watching their ads); we should pay for NPR if we like it.

Just 2 cents from a Republican NPR member (I subscribe for Car Talk and Wait Wait don't tell me).

Moses · 06-09-2006, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by ubiquity0
These rulers used TAXES (extortion?) to pay for it!!!

Not true. The renaissance first blossomed in Florence and was funded by the Medici. Neighboring cities followed suit, but funding of the magnificent art works was provided by the church and wealthy patrons whose social status was secured by the quality of the work they supported.

It is possible that public monies were misappropriiated during the renaissance, but it was hardly a major source of funding.

fastpat · 06-09-2006, 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by procon
Trade you the demise of NPR for AFRTS.

Deal!

legion · 06-09-2006, 07:48 AM

AFRTS?

HardDrive · 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by BGCarrera32
Definitely the LEAST intelligent thind I've read on this forum all month.

Ummmmm.....have you read Mulls posts?

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Originally posted by Rick Lee
Yeah, it's a shame some folks have a computer, when their time would be better spent getting a GED or preparing my meals for me.

As soon as I finish my PHD I'll get right on that genius.

stevepaa · 08:38 AM

http://www.afrts.osd.mil/

AFRTS is the American Forces Radio and Television Service.

even trade

And if NPR is only funded at 2% level, why the fuss. Let's not fund it.

Moneyguy1 · 06-09-2006, 08:41 AM

Question:

Where did the Medici get their money in the first place?

Jared at Pelican Parts · 06-09-2006, 08:48 AM

Fred Rogers, kicking ass and taking names with trademark kindness....

http://www.transbuddha.com/index.php/buddha/wont_you_be_my_neighbor/

Moses · 06-09-2006, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Question:

Where did the Medici get their money in the first place?

Banking.

Moneyguy1 · 06-09-2006, 09:06 AM

Thank you.

No involvement in politics?

Moses · 06-09-2006, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Jared Fenton
Fred Rogers, kicking ass and taking names with trademark kindness....

Pretty inspiring clip.

fastpat · 06-09-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by HardDrive
we can't spend a few million to bring arts and culture into peoples homes?

No, not with money taken without consent. It sullies anything it's used for, particularly the arts.