Wait a minute.... You do not have to be a citizen of this country to vote????

[singpilot]

Only Arizona and New Hampshire check citizenship status.

No wonder the elections have been going 'south' lately.

What is it going to take to wake this country up?

[Moneyguy1]

I have a voter registration card. THree cheers for AZ!!

[teenerted1]

is it all those canadians voting to keep WALMART out of NH?

[Joeaksa]

Another terrorist strike here in CONUS is what its going to take.

We pushed through checking voter ID's a while back and the hispanic lobby had kittens over it.

When the terrorists make another hit then we will finally close the borders and get difficult with things, but I doubt that it will happen otherwise.

[red-beard]

When I was in California, they required a photo ID to vote. And I know that the Jesse Jackson contingent was against photo IDs for voting.

[stevepaa]

On your CA voter registration paperwork are the listing of requirements.
You may register to vote if you meet the following criteria:
You are a United States citizen
You are a resident of California
You are at least 18 years of age (or will be by the date of the next election)
You are not in prison or on parole for conviction of a felony
You have not been judged by a court to be mentally incompetent to register and vote


There is a place for your signature under penalty of perjury and your are liable for fine , imprisonment or exportation(if not a US citizen).


So just what papers do you propose we all carry to show we are citizens when we vote?

[Rick V]

I have a voter reg. card. If you arn't a citizen how do you get registered, and vote?

[mikester]

When I go to vote I know they check my address against a list to ensure that I'm "registered." If your name doesn't appear on the list of voters at that location I believe you get a "provisional" ballot that is then checked against registered voter roll books. If no "registered" voter appears then the ballot is tossed.

[Moneyguy1]

Steve:

I am not averse to a national identity card system. After all, we still have drivers licenses, and other ids. Why not a universal nationally accepted computer coded card that could take the place of a lot of these other ids?

Do you really think that people who want to bypass the system and register with a bogus ID are afraid of being arrested for purjury? Find 'em first!!

[red-beard]

And then Al Gore and Andre Manuel Lopez Obrador say that your vote hasn't been counted.

Everyone sing!

Every vote is sacred.
Every vote is great.
If a vote is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground.
God shall make them pay for
Each vote that can't be found.

Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
Spill theirs just anywhere,
But God loves those who treat their
Voters with more care

Every vote is sacred.
Every vote is great.
WOMEN:
If a vote is wasted,...
CHILDREN:
...God get quite irate.

PRIEST:
Every vote is sacred.
BRIDE and GROOM:
Every vote is good.
NANNIES:
Every vote is needed...
CARDINALS:
...In your neighbourhood!

CHILDREN:
Every vote is useful.
Every vote is fine.
FUNERAL CORTEGE:
God needs everybody's.
MOURNER #1:
Mine!
MOURNER #2:
And mine!
CORPSE:
And mine!

NUN:
Let the Pagan spill theirs
O'er mountain, hill, and plain.
HOLY STATUES:
God shall strike them down for
Each vote that's made in vain.

EVERYONE:
Every vote is sacred.
Every vote is good.
Every vote is needed
In your neighbourhood.

Every vote is sacred.
Every vote is great.
If a vote is wasted,
God gets quite iraaaaaate!

[red-beard]

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Steve:

I am not averse to a national identity card system. After all, we still have drivers licenses, and other ids. Why not a universal nationally accepted computer coded card that could take the place of a lot of these other ids?

Wait, one exists! It's called a "PASSPORT" and it proves citizenship!

[pwd72s]

Originally posted by Rick V
I have a voter reg. card. If you arn't a citizen how do you get registered, and vote?

In Oregon, it's all too easy. ALL Oregon elections are "vote by mail". The local county clerk mails out the ballots, and those who care to do so mark & mail them back. Now, think about this...
1. Oregon is one of 7 states to grant driver's licenses to illegal aliens.
2. With every new license, a voter's registration card, a postage paid post card, is handed out. One little check box asking if the person mailing the card back is a citizen. Uh, if the person is already a criminal by being in the country illegally, he or she should worry about a state or federal election law???
3. Mail that card back...be prepared to receive your ballot in the mail.

The Oregon Secretary of State claims that "no evidence" of fraud has been found within this system. I don't think liberals look for evidence very much....

Welcome to the People's Republik of Oregon....

[john70t]

Crime pays.

[Paul K]

When I went for my immigration interview to change from 'Fiancee' to 'Conditional Permanent Resident', the interviewer asked me if I had ever voted in this country. I said no. She said "Good thing, as that would be a felony".
So I have to pay taxes, but I can't vote. That sucks.
Cheers,
Paul.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by Paul K
When I went for my immigration interview to change from 'Fiancee' to 'Conditional Permanent Resident', the interviewer asked me if I had ever voted in this country. I said no. She said "Good thing, as that would be a felony".
So I have to pay taxes, but I can't vote. That sucks.
Cheers,
Paul.

Try not to let it ruin your day. Of the 6 countries I have lived in, I was able to vote in only one, the United States of America, where I was born.

Every other country in the world that I know of does the same thing, so this is one thing you cannot pin on our system.

Become a citizen and you can vote to your hearts content.

[pwd72s]

Originally posted by Paul K
When I went for my immigration interview to change from 'Fiancee' to 'Conditional Permanent Resident', the interviewer asked me if I had ever voted in this country. I said no. She said "Good thing, as that would be a felony".
So I have to pay taxes, but I can't vote. That sucks.
Cheers,
Paul.

Easy, Paul...become a citizen, follow the rules to become one, THEN vote. I'm not a citizen of Canada. Should I be allowed to vote there? But if my income was made in Canada, meaning if I worked there, I'd be using Canadian highways, parks, etc. Damned right, I'd expect to pay taxes to pay for that. During many wars, a lot of the men who fought and died for this country weren't old enough to vote....and you ***** because you pay taxes? Gimme a break....I'm sure I have "paid taxes" in every country I have ever been in, simply by buying something. Does this qualify me to vote there??? Nope!

[Paul K]

Hmm, I really don't let it bother me (sorry if I came off as sour) but I thought this country was founded on 'No taxation without representation'. Like I told the lady at the immigration office, I'm not really politically motivated. Sure, I have views- kinda disagree with GWB, but that's another topic. And I am opposed to my taxes being wasted- sure, if the money went to the right places, I'd be happier, but it doesn't- they waste it on all kinds of foolish stuff. It really helps to remember my homeland- England- where taxes are prohibitively high. Then I will gladly pay my taxes and wait to vote. I do, however, think that legal permanent residents should be allowed to vote. I'd be fine with legal Yanks voting in the UK...

[Moneyguy1]

rwd-beard:

Precisely. My idea would be a card that even acted as a passport.

Doable?

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
rwd-beard:

Precisely. My idea would be a card that even acted as a passport.

Doable?

Bob,

No, because you need to get the passport stamped when leaving or entering a country. Until we get to the electronic age with microchips everywhere, its not a reality.

I head to the embassy every few months for a new passport or to add pages to the existing ones I hold. They fill up fast when traveling.

[Tobra]

Originally posted by red-beard
When I was in California, they required a photo ID to vote. And I know that the Jesse Jackson contingent was against photo IDs for voting.

that is no longer a requirement, sadly

I was going to say something about the taxation without representation, but there is a lot more representation without taxation happening around here, it would be a relatively simple matter for an illegal alien to vote.