FBI Terrorist Alert

EdT82SC · 08-09-2006, 02:41 PM

Got this email from www.twistedbadge.com:

REQUEST NATIONWIDE BROADCAST

THERE ARE 11 MISSING EGYPTIAN STUDENTS WHO WERE DUE TO REPORT TO MONTANA STATE UNIVERSITY, BUT DID NOT.
THESE STUDENTS ARRIVED AT JFK IAP ON 29 JULY 2006, BUT NEVER CONTINUED THEIR TRAVEL ON TO MONTANA. THESE 11 EGYPTIAN STUDENTS ARE AS FOLLOWS:

1. IBRAHIM, EL SAYED AHMED ELSAYED; DOB OF 4/29/1986, PASSPORT 954757

2. EL DESSOUKI, ESLAM IBRAHIM MOHAMED; DOB OF 02/21/1985, PASSPORT 1002756

3. EL BAHNASAWI, ALAA ABD EL FATTAH ALI; DOB OF 04/02/1986, PASSPORT 934679

4. ABD ALLA, MOHAMED RAGAB MOHAMED; DOB OF 02/15/1984, PASSPORT 860972

5. EL LAKET, AHMED REFAAT SAAD EL MOGHAZI; DOB OF 09/01/1986, PASSPORT 943306

6. EL ELA, AHMED MOHAMED MOHAMED ABOU; DOB OF 02/02/1985, PASSPORT 595081

7. EL MOGHAZY, MOHAMED IBRAHIM ELSAYED; DOB OF 08/08/1986, PASSPORT 861073

8. ABDOU, EBRAHIM MABROUK MOUSTAFA; DOB OF 02/25/1984, PASSPORT 828682

9. EL GAFARY, MOUSTAFA WAGDY MOUSTAFA; DOB OF 07/01/1988, PASSPORT 861673

10. MARAY, MOHAMED SALEH AHMED; DOB OF 09/12/1985, PASSPORT 862634

11. EL SHENAWY, MOHAMED IBRAHIM FOUAAD; DOB OF 08/12/1988, PASSPORT 862534

THIS IS NATIONWIDE, WITH SPECIFIC REGION OF INTEREST IS THE EASTERN SEABOARD--FROM MA TO FL. THE PREDICATE FOR THIS ACTION IS THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES ILLEGALLY AND ARE WANTED FOR QUESTIONING. AT THE PRESENT TIME, THERE ARE NO KNOWN ASSOCIATIONS TO ANY TERORRIST GROUPS. APPROACH WITH CAUTION. THE LAST KNOWN LOCATION OF THESE STUDENTS WAS JFK IAP, NEW YORK ON 29 JULY 2006. ONCE LOCATED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, ALL SUBJECTS ARE TO BE DETAINED AND HELD FOR QUESTIONING BY THE FBI AND ICE AGENTS.

POINTS OF CONTACT:

SALT LAKE CITY FIELD OFFICE: SA MARK SEYLER OFC: 406-443-6912, Cell:406-431-2241)

SA JAMES DOBIE, JTTF/ICE (OFC: 406-324-3906, Cell: 406-431-1595)

IF LOCATED, STOP AND HOLD FOR THIS AGENCY. PLEASE MAKE CONTACT WITH ONE OF THE ABOVE AGENCIES UPON LOCATING THESE INDIVIDUALS. APPRECIATE YOUR ASSISTANCE IN THIS MATTER.

AUTHORITY/SA S CRUSE.AGENCY/FBI LOCATION/SALT LAKE CITY, UT

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END - Law enforcement needs your help to find these students - please pass this message on. Thank you.

legion · 08-09-2006, 05:52 PM

Three have been caught:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060809/ap_on_re_us/egyptians_missing

dafischer · 08-09-2006, 06:01 PM

One caught in Minnesota, two about 20 miles from me in NJ. But of course, according to official sources, there was never anything to worry about.

Yeah, right.

legion · 08-09-2006, 06:04 PM

Well, if they said there was something to worry about, then it would have been intentionally causing a panic for political gain--probably staged by the President himself.

Porsche-O-Phile · Porsche-O-Phile's Garage

If they pose "no terrorist threat" then why does the FBI even shive a git?

dafischer · 08-09-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by legion
Well, if they said there was something to worry about, then it would have been intentionally causing a panic for political gain--probably staged by the President himself.

Nah...I think Cheney would probably do something more overt.

cegerer · cegerer's Garage

Why do we allow foreign students in our country, particularly from the MidEast? Many of my engineering school classmates from the late 70s/early 80s were Iranians ( .... most drove brand new black and gold TransAms for some reason - god, they loved those cars

). Now they're all back home with their US educations working on the nuclear bomb program .....

Aurel · Aurel's Garage

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Originally posted by cegerer
Why do we allow foreign students in our country, particularly from the MidEast? Many of my engineering school classmates from the late 70s/early 80s were Iranians ( .... most drove brand new black and gold TransAms for some reason - god, they loved those cars ). Now they're all back home with their US educations working on the nuclear bomb program .....

Because american students are too dumb and/or too lazy for being productive in the sciences and engineering fields. That is too much work for too little money in their taste. But there is a need for qualified scientists if the USA wants to keep being a leader. I get resumes from iranians, chinese and indians all the time for phDs and postdocs. Never from US citizens. Personally, I prefer working with the chinese: they are very smart and hard working, although they can be sneaky at times, and their english often sucks

Aurel

widgeon13 · 08-10-2006, 04:12 AM

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Originally posted by Aurel
Because american students are too dumb and/or too lazy for being productive in the sciences and engineering fields. That is too much work for too little money in their taste. But there is a need for qualified scientists if the USA wants to keep being a leader. I get resumes from iranians, chinese and indians all the time for phDs and postdocs. Never from US citizens. Personally, I prefer working with the chinese: they are very smart and hard working, although they can be sneaky at times, and their english often sucks

Aurel

Perhaps your organization is not doing good recruiting, does not have comparable compensation programs or is not an attractive employer for qualified US students. I don't believe qualified organizations are finding it difficult to attract excellent graduates in the sciences and engineering. I disagree that American students are dumb or lazy.

Your generalization is quite unwarranted.

Aurel · Aurel's Garage

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Originally posted by widgeon13
Your generalization is quite unwarranted. [/B]

When was the last time you took a tour in the sciences department of any campus? My generalization is warranted by my experience, which of course is not universal, but how does yours compare?

Aurel

gaijindabe · 08-10-2006, 06:07 AM

The fact is not all illegals come from Mexico/Central America. And they did not get here by swimming. If you look at student and tourist visas granted, who showed up and who went home - there are a few extra million people who have gone missing.

widgeon13 · 08-10-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by Aurel
When was the last time you took a tour in the sciences department of any campus? My generalization is warranted by my experience, which of course is not universal, but how does yours compare?

Aurel

I graduated from a college that is known for it's engineering cirriculum and the enrollment in that specific field has been expanding. I also spent 30 years in an industry that relies heavily on recruiting from the engineering and science fields and we never had a difficult time finding qualified candidates. On the contrary, we were disappointed at times when we did not have positions available in order to take on more good candidates. I hold the educational system more at fault for the lack of candidates in the sciences. Engineers are not finding their way into the classroom as teachers and consequently students are not becoming inspired to pursue these careers. That is very unfortunate.

I agree with you that the focus is on financial reward and that is what drives the student to pursue a different field so at least we agree on that point.

While I am not of this generation, I disagree that the kids are lazy or stupid. My inclination is that they lack leadership and mentoring both at home and in school. That is most unfortunate.

Outside of North America, I feel science and engineering are more actively promoted in the schools as opposed to a liberal arts education. We, on the other, hand promote the touchy feely concepts in the educational system.

coloradoporsche · 08-10-2006, 10:46 AM

Aurel is spot on (except about Chineese being sneaky).

Half of my engineering profs were foreign-born. I work in a high tech industry and about 50% of my customers are not American citizens. The free market dictates who gets hired by tech companies, and they recruit heavily from outside the US for a reason.

Funny how all the lawyers I work with are American, though.