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tabs 08-24-2006 01:12 AM

The economy is going great even after the worst shock this country has had since 1941. Just take a look at the price of Collectable Cars...1M paid for a Hemi Cuda???? Even our Motion owns a Ferrari...Alot of people have dinero to spend. Unemployment is at what 4.6%, Corps have alot of cash, Home owners have made alot of money, Interest rates are still realitivily low. And why Bushs Tax Cuts have worked.

I remember back in the mid 90s when Clinton bragged about how many jobs were created under his admin. Everybody looked around and said, "OHHH U mean those jobs down at Mickey Ds." So don't give me this Bush is to blame for jobs being shipped overseas or mfg jobs being eliminated. This has been a long term process that started in the 1980s when US companies got lean and mean to compete in the world. Remember when we were all about to surrender to the Nips back in the 80s and were whining about how they were beating us at our own game. But U little scamps just have to blame somebody...it seems Liberals are like trained monkeys always wanting to rely on the govt to tell them when to eat, p!ss and *****.

livi 08-24-2006 01:57 AM

Yet, we ought to consider ourselves fortunate. Contemplate, if you will, for a minute the grim outlook were we born a poor farmer in Iraq or Lebanon..

This planet is arguably doomed anyway. Homo sapiens evolved (or where created ;) ) into a creature not compatible with a balanced, flourishing planet in the long run.

tabs 08-24-2006 07:16 AM

Man is supposed to be the Shepard and care for all living things...but what he has turned out to be is a destroyer, who lays waste to everything he touches.

Jim Richards 08-24-2006 07:26 AM

Spoken like a true buffet-master. :)

tabs 08-24-2006 07:35 AM

Yep a herd of Locusts couldn't match me at a Buffet.

tabs 08-24-2006 07:37 AM

BTW....Aubergine is just another word for PURPLE.....Jimmy Baby...

Jim Richards 08-24-2006 07:52 AM

And we all know PURPLE rocks! Hendrix playing in the background.

gaijindabe 08-24-2006 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by tabs
Remember when we were all about to surrender to the Nips back in the 80s and were whining about how they were beating us at our own game. But U little scamps just have to blame somebody...it seems Liberals are like trained monkeys always wanting to rely on the govt to tell them when to eat, p!ss and *****.
Tabs is SO right. All over again..:D

tabs 08-24-2006 08:03 AM

My Post had a neutral bias to it...just stated the facts.

I do like Purple on the 72 and 73s..it is the only era specific colour that I like. One can keep that hideous Sepia Brown and that awefull Gold Colour....

I have often said that Porsche painted their cars Sepia Brown, because they found some left over WW2 paint in a shed out back and being the cheap Huns that they are wouldn't let it go to waste.

tabs 08-24-2006 08:11 AM

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What is a "balanced, flourishing planet"? Are you forgetting the extinction episodes of this planet's history? The interaction of homo sapiens with the planet is as natural as the interaction of the planet with any other creature.
Yep man has had the impact of an Asteroid hitting the Earth, just slower

RPKESQ 08-24-2006 09:25 AM

I for one do not believe any of the man made doomsayer rhetoric. The natural environment of the planet has existed through many wild swings of death, destruction and rebirth. Man's relatively short time on earth has been of little affect. That does not mean we should not try to take care of the earth, but that it will outlast us no matter what.

As far as man-made doom, we've heard this a hundred thousand times before; every crackpot takes a swing at it. Guess what, they have always been wrong. Have we forgotten all the Christians who voiced an opinion that the end of the millennium was the end of man? Go back and read the enormous number of news reports of "preachers" and religious prophets pushing that stuff out at that time. Well, we're still waiting!

Please note this is not posted to upset any Christians, doomsayers or not, just to point out a recent example of such nonsense. No Christians were injured or killed during the composing of this post.

Now, back on topic. We completely misunderstand the minds of our opponents. We did not learn from Viet Nam and we or the Israelis from the ME. We can not win in any conventional war or battle. They win if they stand up and lob a rock, they win if they inflict any damage no matter how insignificant, they win if we kill (martyr) any one of them, and they win no matter what in their own minds. So how, except complete annihilation are we to win? I have several idea’s, but let’s hear some others opinions. No fantasies (I like reality) and no kill them all scenarios (see fantasies). Let’s try to stick with thing we could do in 5, 10, 15 years but geared to a long term solution. What say you?

Rodeo 08-24-2006 09:30 AM

Put Bush/Cheney in charge of their future.

Jeff Higgins 08-24-2006 10:12 AM

Bringing them into the "modern world" is our only hope in the long-term. A good friend grew up in pre-Ayatola Iran; he tells me the younger generations all long for everything "western". Give those people the means by which to take control of their own countries from the religious fanatics and we would see progress. Expose them to more tolerant cultures and see what starts to happen.

dhoward 08-24-2006 10:19 AM

Give 'em all an IPod.
That will confound them long enough to make them forget what all the fuss was about...

gaijindabe 08-24-2006 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
Expose them to more tolerant cultures and see what starts to happen.
Kind of like the tolerant cultures of France, England and Holland? That don't work.

Moneyguy1 08-24-2006 11:18 AM

tabs..

The economy is great depending on whom you ask. As for "Democrats" looking to the government for clues as to when to have bodily functions, the "Republicans" simply follow blindly the current leadership and benefit from the "economy" that favors folks able to pay one million for a "Cuda". Difficult to "label" entire groups of people by party when there are those in both profiting and others suffering from the economic conditions. Them that have cannot relate to them that ain't. Different worlds.

Different views, put forward by folks on different rungs of the economic ladder.

BTW...The National debt is 8.4 trillion, each citizen owns a $28,377.32 share and the interest paid in fiscal yaer 2004 was $321,566,323,971.29. (www.publicdebt.treas.goc/opd/opdint.htm)


Another take on tax cuts....With lower taxes, folks do tend to purchase more. So, is it not possible that this has contributed to the "feeding frenzy" of refinances, potential bankruptcies and the growing debt load of the "average" citizen? Does anyone else think that the Administration would have more support for the war IF the populace were asked to make a few sacrifices as a method of uniting under a cause like coupons during WW II? I think the cuts have had the potential of as much harm as good.

livi 08-24-2006 11:26 AM

Yes, the planet will prevail but we won´t. Naturally speaking.

Rodeo 08-24-2006 11:27 AM

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No thanks. I don't need the government to take more of my money to decrease the risk of me mis-spending my hard-earned wages.
You DO need the government to take enough from your wages to pay for federal spending, including war spending. Otherwise, you'd just be passing along the burden of your spending to your kids and grandkids ... and no decent, responsible person wold do that, right?

Rodeo 08-24-2006 11:53 AM

Yea, and if I decrease eating, I can get back into my size 34 pants.

Easier said than done.

Until it's done, we pay as we go, it's that simple. Bush's borrow and spend policy is the height of selfishness and irresponsibility.

Republican control of all branches of government sucks.

Rodeo 08-24-2006 01:19 PM

Sorry dude, the admin makes the budget.

Congress passes the budget, subject to leadership, arm-twisting and ultimately veto by the White House.


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