Olberman is the best thing on TV

[techweenie]

Equating Olbermann with O'Reilly is the height of ignorance. O'Reilly is exceptionally ill-informed on history, current affairs, operation of government, etc. He makes up for it with emotional and demagogic speech.

Olbermann is much more factual. His weakness is in conveying authenticity of emotion. I don't doubt he believes what he says, but there's a part of him that holds back from the edge of outrage.

So really, it's an issue of style vs. substance. Not surprising that the neo-conned opt for style.

[Rearden]

Although I can only stand to watch him in small doses, Olbermann does have that newscaster voice -- speaking in such an authoritative manner that you want to believe it's true. His weakness is that he steals all his material from democraticunderground, and I can't imagine a guy as bright as he probably is believes any of that crap.

I wonder what his next incarnation will be after this show is canceled. Sportscaster => Fringe newscaster => ????

[Rodeo]

President!

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Seahawk
My thoughts exactly...but how'd your boys do at Andersonville? And I know exactly what happened, your hubris aside.

Before or after the Union refused to take any prisoners of war from the Confederacy, even a one sided release.

[fastpat]

Olbermann has another brilliant essay on the lying thug, Bush II.

Lessons from Vietnam, November 20, 2006.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15821138/

[Rodeo]

I finally caught up with that commentary last night on TiVo. Olberman is almost frighteningly articulate and smart. I can see why the Bushies don't like him, he's the anti-Bush

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by Rodeo
Olberman is almost frighteningly articulate and smart.

lol, thanks for a chuckle

You've assembled a really diverse cast of underperforming heros to worship

[fastpat]

Originally posted by lendaddy
lol, thanks for a chuckle

You've assembled a really diverse cast of underperforming heros to worship

What in Olbermann's essay did you find inaccurate?

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by fastpat
What in Olbermann's essay did you find inaccurate?

For starters:

"As you will be remembered for Iraq, and for the lies you and your government told to get us there and keep us there."

The childish mentality required to eat this up awes me.

The fact that he must depend on this type of overemotional jibberish to make his points smacks of something..........and it's not intelligence.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by lendaddy
For starters:

"As you will be remembered for Iraq, and for the lies you and your government told to get us there and keep us there."

The childish mentality required to eat this up awes me.

The fact that he must depend on this type of overemotional jibberish to make his points smacks of something..........and it's not intelligence.

Since the lies told by Bush are well documented, what is making you think Bush did not lie, or is it the publishing of these lies by Olbermann bothering you?

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by fastpat
Since the lies told by Bush are well documented, what is making you think Bush did not lie, or is it the publishing of these lies by Olbermann bothering you?

Lies for war profits, blood for oil, black helicoptors, skull and bones, grandpa Bush selling to the Nazis, etc etc....

All excellent and rational points, did I miss any?

You know, if you guys (including Olberman) would lose the drama and exaggeration you might convince the occasional person. But as is all too obvious, it is the personal ego that drives you guys not results. So(being the loyal opposition) I say thank you for rendering yourselves ineffective

And a happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by lendaddy
Lies for war profits, blood for oil,

I see, although the lies told by the Bush II regime are well documented, and legion, you're denying that any of them are true. Have I got that accurately?

You know, if you guys (including Olberman) would lose the drama and exaggeration you might convince the occasional person.

On the contrary, when a US government president lies and sends young men and women to invade a foreign country, there is no such thing as exaggeration when those lies are found out, and proven. You don't like that, I have no idea why, that you dislike someone that is speaking truth to criminal power is irrational.

But as is all too obvious, it is the personal ego that drives you guys not results. So(being the loyal opposition) I say thank you for rendering yourselves ineffective.

The only effectiveness we need is truth well told. That is what Olbermann did, and that will ultimately prevail.

[lendaddy]

If you honestly think your style is a convincing one then I salute you.....carry on.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by lendaddy
If you honestly think your style is a convincing one then I salute you.....carry on.

If you depend on "style" to be convinced, you're in for a lot of disappointment throughout the rest of your life.

Truth usually isn't stylish, it is what it is.

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by fastpat
If you depend on "style" to be convinced, you're in for a lot of disappointment throughout the rest of your life.

Truth usually isn't stylish, it is what it is.

So relish in your internal successes, I encourage it..........in fact win as many of those battles as you like.

In the end you'll have acomplished nothing, but on the upshot you'll be really proud of yourself

[MRM]

Originally posted by lendaddy
I swear you're as big a cheeseball as he is. Good stuff.

Look, I'm from Wisconsin and that's offensive to me. Where I come from "cheesehead" cheeseball" and pretty much and "cheese" related name is a compliment. I mean, we are the state where high fashion is wearing a chedarhead hat to the Packers game. Next time, can you call the object of your derision a "wursthead" or something?

Don't start on me about the Packers. The Pack will be back.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by lendaddy
So relish in your internal successes, I encourage it..........in fact win as many of those battles as you like.

In the end you'll have acomplished nothing, but on the upshot you'll be really proud of yourself

69% of the American population wants the US government out of Iraq, and thinks George W. Bush lied to get "us" into Iraq.

Looks like a victory external to me alrighty.

[Moneyguy1]

Comments bordering on hate show fear on the part of those making said comments. Plain and simple.

[lendaddy]

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Comments bordering on hate show fear on the part of those making said comments. Plain and simple.

I agree, Olberman does espouse much hate, the question is: What is he afraid of?

[Moneyguy1]

Probably he is afraid of the direction the Country is going in, len...as are more and more domestic and foreign political and military leaders. How many more people do we need telling us that we are in an international world of hurt before the supporters of the current line of action admit it? No one has a solution to the problem and for the administration or the Reps to ask the Dems "What would YOU do?" is disingenuous and misleading. Am I fearful of the current quagmire?

You bet I am. I am tired of all the "Everything is going to be OK" rhetoric of the past few years when anyone with a IQ higher than Alfred E. Newman could see that this was not the case.

Considering the state of the world at the present time, one would be well advised to re-examine their perspective and see if it conforms to reality. I recommend the article in the latest copy of "U.S. News and World Report" (November 27 issue) entitled: "Who Lost Iraq". It is a relatively long article with a timetable of events leading up to the present time. Worth your time.

You see? No name-calling, no insults. Just a recommendation to read an article and get a slightly different perspective on the situation and how it developed.