James Brown

[tchanson]

Originally posted by sammyg2

Pat Boone sang songs. Good songs. Music. You know, that stuff that isn't posing or pretending or yelling.

Word.

Who needed JB or Richard Penniman screeching and leering at our white women when you could have this instead?



Tim

[VincentVega]

Funny, I have no idea who Pat Boone is. Why **** on JB? Dont listen if you dont like his music.

I'm not a religious guy, but always loved James Brown. From now on, 12/25 will be a celebration of James Brown at my house.

[rouxroux]

Originally posted by sammyg2


Pat Boone sang songs. Good songs. Music. You know, that stuff that isn't posing or pretending or yelling.
Of course it's hard to try and latch onto a certain clique and pretend to be cool if it's understood or mainstream.

Yeah sammyg2, I almost forgot that Pat Boone album with him dressed up in the spiked (Michael Jackson look-alike)leather jacket with all the chains. Pat Boone is TRULY an original!!!!

(Better than that, let's let him sing some songs by Little Richard...we'll make a mint!!! He's pretty fly for a white guy, eh?)
***Tootie Fruity***

...But for me, "I still be diggin' on James Brown"!!!

[sammyg2]

I asked a question that has not been answered. Instead I received ridicule for not going along with the crowd.
Typical.

[rouxroux]

sammy, yes, I was classically trained, but if you can't understand funk, pocket or groove, there is no way myself (or anyone) can explain it to you. I guess it's a cultural thing. Sorry, your loss. (Sort of like someone not from New Orleans trying to play a 3/2 clave "second line" groove...we can tell the posers).

[Seahawk]

Originally posted by sammyg2
I asked a question that has not been answered. Instead I received ridicule for not going along with the crowd.
Typical.

Sammy.

I like all kinds of music...can't play a note but I know what I like.

Think Animal House at the Dexter Lake Club, only MUCH better.

Love Sinatra, love Monk, Dire Straits, SD, Marley (and his relations). It is about the moment. Same month I saw James I saw the Allman Brothers.

Both were great. But then there was Earth, Wind and Fire

[nostatic]

Originally posted by sammyg2
I asked a question that has not been answered. Instead I received ridicule for not going along with the crowd.
Typical.

how do you explain orange to a blind person?

[azasadny]

Originally posted by sammyg2
I'm sitting here trying to understand why he would be missed by anyone.
His music? Bah, yelling. Not singing, just yelling.
his style? bah, early bling. Nothing good about that. Liberachi ghetto is not a style.
Maybe the wife beating, criminal record, drug related arrests, nope, not much to admire there.

I'm obviously uniformed, little help please? I cannot find a single redeeming characteristic about this man or his life.

+1 here

[Sonic dB]

News Flash: Almost none of the "artists" that you guys like (musical, movies, whatever) lead perfect lives filled with good... (including Pat Boone)....most of them lead ****tyy lives filled with sex, drugs, debauchery etc... The key is to be able to seperate the "art" with the person's persona who created it. In JBs case, his only real blotch on his personal record is the one relatively minor issue from the late 80s.... as a whole, that guy did more for his race than most African Americans...and more for soul and funk music..than anyone....but that gets overlooked by some questions about his private life?

I look at JB as being similar to Miles Davis...both innovators, both had heavy drug issues and "questionable" private lives...but who cares about that stuff? You guys do..I dont. We are not talking about Ike Turner here....I just enjoy the music and performances... out.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally posted by Sonic dB
News Flash: Almost none of the "artists" that you guys like (musical, movies, whatever) lead perfect lives filled with good... (including Pat Boone)....most of them lead ****tyy lives filled with sex, drugs, debauchery etc... The key is to be able to seperate the "art" with the person's persona who created it. In JBs case, his only real blotch on his personal record is the one relatively minor issue from the late 80s.... as a whole, that guy did more for his race than most African Americans...and more for soul and funk music..than anyone....but that gets overlooked by some questions about his private life?

I look at JB as being similar to Miles Davis...both innovators, both had heavy drug issues and "questionable" private lives...but who cares about that stuff? You guys do..I dont. We are not talking about Ike Turner here....I just enjoy the music and performances... out.

You can certainly say that about other current and past cultural icons, Ray Charles, Johnny Cash, Willie etc...

We should take Sammy to see George Clinton. He might get a part of it.

Last time I saw George it was a 2 hour show but only 5 songs, 20 guys on stage, Macy Grey sat in as well as Tommy Lee on drums.

THAT was a good time.

[Dan in Pasadena]

I'm dumbfounded by a person who admittedly doesn't admire, like or even understand James Brown, his style, talent or influence yet criticizes him for "yelling" and "jumping around" on the day of his death! Whatever happend to just shutting the **** up? WHat happened to "...if you don't have anything nice to say just say nothing at all" I thought that was a nice, older generation, middle America value? Why WOULDN'T Sammy know the value of that one? As someone said, "better to remain silent..."

Admittedly, James had some demons, but then of the major early music icons, which one didn't? Elvis? Jerry Lee? Little Richard? The later ones? Janis? Jimi? Morrison? or were they all "yelling" and "jumping around" too because they had personal isssues? Blast away Sammy, I'm here to respond. Leave James Brown to the ages, he's earned his due.

[Sonic dB]

chit, everyone knows people in "real life" that have demons.... we all have some relative who is or was a junky... we all know people who have done serious time...got killed or seriously injured screwing around...have multiple kids with multiple women...etc. etc. Personally speaking, I have a relative who has a serioius drug issue, been homeless, done some crime to pay for his habit... etc... another guy who was one of my closest friends from elementary school through high school was convicted of rapining and murdering a little boy... we all knew the guy was kinda crazy, but his problems were deeper, much deeper...

So, my point is that celebrities, artists, NFL Players etc. arent any different than people we know in every day life...

[speeder]

Supposedly Mick Jagger got on the same stage as JB once, (decades ago), and he nearly schit in his pants with fear. He stole every everything that he does from him. And so did a lot of other people.

Might as well steal from the best, as I always say.

[svandamme]

he was Super Bad, in a good way

[jluetjen]

I saw James Brown at the Channel in Boston in the 80's. The usual deal at the Channel would be one or two warm-up bands from 9:00 PM to at least 11:00, and then the headline would come up and play until after 1:00 AM. A couple of encores after that and everyone would be going home by Boston's mandated closing time for liquer sales (and the last subways) of 2:00.

James brown was completely different. There were no warm-up acts. James Brown and the band came on a little after 9:00 or 10:00 PM and starting playing 40 minute sets. The last set ended around 4:00 AM. It was the only time that I actually had to take a taxi home from a "Channel" show.

He was certainly the hardest working man in show business!

[artplumber]

Another Legend heading West. RIP

Then again, I think he'll be a mover and a shaker there too.

[Seahawk]

The irony of this thread is that my sister prosecuted him once in the 80's and again in the 90's, and fought against his recent pardon:

The convictions for which Brown was pardoned occurred between July 1988 and March 1998 in Aiken County, SC.

James did have some demons...but who among us doesn't. Living in America.

If I threw the first stone, I'd get pelted in return

[Steve PH]

Bollox to his convictions, I'm shoked that he has departed this world, what an awesome performer he was, what an amazing musician he was.

God rest his soul, you rock J.B!

You will be missed.

This add made me smile, James at his most amusing.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-cbiYzlHOk

[speeder]

That BMW movie is great, never seen it before. My friend Danny Trejo as the devil's driver made me smile, he gets his ass in everything.

[stomachmonkey]

OK that was friggin cool. Love Marilyn Manson at the end. Classic.