The Lies That Led To War

[kach22i]

Originally posted by cmccuist
Whatever happened to that nuclear clock.

Nuclear, climate perils push Doomsday Clock ahead
(Reuters)
Updated: 2007-01-18 15:07
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007-01/18/content_786855.htm

The 'Doomsday Clock' in a file photo. The scientists who mind the Doomsday Clock on Wednesday moved it two minutes closer to midnight -- symbolizing the annihilation of civilization -- adding the perils of global warming for the first time to acute nuclear threats.

[Racerbvd]

Originally posted by Porsche-O-Phile
I'm sure the parents, widows and orphans of the soldiers killed over there would take great solace and comfort in your interpretation of the situation.

It's been SOOOOOOO worth it, hasn't it?

And the guy I met last month that lost an eye to a roadside bomb and the EMT who was with take great comfort in your support of the enemy.

[gostraight]

Originally posted by fastpat
Even if that were not true, and Iran was putting the finishing touches on a proven warhead just mounted on top of an ICBM of proven accuracy, the US government could not lawfully attack that country.

Israel has at least two hundred and possibly as many as four hundred nuclear weapons, some of which can reach most mideast capitals, yet no one discusses an attack upon Israel by the US government. Why is that? Israel is a genuine threat to its' neigbors, has attacked its' neighbors repeatedly, and threatens to do so again.

Israel is a Democratic country with a democraticly elected Prime Minister. It's recent attacks on it's neighbors were against Hezbollah, a group that openly admits their goal of whiping Israel off the map.

[thrown_hammer]

I thought the nuclear clock automatically wound your watch and stuff? This Dooms day theaory explains why when the brakes went out on my Baja my watch sped up 3 seconds...

[kang]

Originally posted by Porsche-O-Phile
I'm sure the parents, widows and orphans of the soldiers killed over there would take great solace and comfort in your interpretation of the situation.

It's been SOOOOOOO worth it, hasn't it?

Originally posted by Racerbvd
And the guy I met last month that lost an eye to a roadside bomb and the EMT who was with take great comfort in your support of the enemy.

I don’t get it. Why is caring about parents, widows and orphans of killed soldiers not considered rooting for America? Why is exposing this administration not considered rooting for America? Why is thinking that a political solution is what is needed, not a military one, not rooting for America?

And do you lower yourself to the third grade level of name calling?

[Porsche_monkey]

I was wondering the same thing...

[on-ramp]

so far this "war on terror" in Iraq has cost more lives and money than the 9/11 attacks.

we should all be proud that we have eliminated the threat that was Saddam Hussein and Iraq.

our leaders are brilliant people

[Rearden]

Originally posted by on-ramp
so far this "war on terror" in Iraq has cost more lives and money than the 9/11 attacks.

Huh? Why is that metric relevant?

[on-ramp]

Originally posted by Rearden
Huh? Why is that metric relevant?

it is relevant to show that Bush and Congress, by virtue of their illegal invasion, have killed far more people than the 9/11 hijackers.

all in the name of "fighting the war on terror"

[Racerbvd]

Originally posted by kang
I don’t get it. Why is caring about parents, widows and orphans of killed soldiers not considered rooting for America? Why is exposing this administration not considered rooting for America? Why is thinking that a political solution is what is needed, not a military one, not rooting for America?

And do you lower yourself to the third grade level of name calling?

First of all you haven't exposed anything but the fact that you really don't understand what is going on and why we couldn't leave Iraq unchecked. Spend some time talking to the people who have been there, those who were serving before the conflict and are still in. Those parent children VOLUNTEERED to serve this country, and yes, many have paid the ultimate price while liberal build up the moral of Americas enemies. Don't believe me, go ask a group of soldiers, most will tell you this.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by cairns
Please allow me to rephrase the question- did someone on this thread advocate an attack on Iran?

Yes.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Racerbvd
And the guy I met last month that lost an eye to a roadside bomb and the EMT who was with take great comfort in your support of the enemy.

There have been no roadside bombs in America, so far. Where is you get the notion that there have been roadside bombs in America?

[Porsche_monkey]

Originally posted by Racerbvd
First of all you haven't exposed anything but the fact that you really don't understand what is going on and why we couldn't leave Iraq unchecked. Spend some time talking to the people who have been there, those who were serving before the conflict and are still in. Those parent children VOLUNTEERED to serve this country, and yes, many have paid the ultimate price while liberal build up the moral of Americas enemies. Don't believe me, go ask a group of soldiers, most will tell you this.

Not sure I want to here but: Wasn't Afghanistan the real source of 9/11 terror? Okay, Saudi Arabia and them. Was there ever plausible link to Iraq? Or any reason to pick Iraq over Iran?

What would be the result of leaving Iraq "unchecked"?

[kang]

Originally posted by Racerbvd
First of all you haven't exposed anything but the fact that you really don't understand what is going on and why we couldn't leave Iraq unchecked. Spend some time talking to the people who have been there, those who were serving before the conflict and are still in. Those parent children VOLUNTEERED to serve this country, and yes, many have paid the ultimate price while liberal build up the moral of Americas enemies. Don't believe me, go ask a group of soldiers, most will tell you this.

You didn’t answer a single one of my questions. The picture you posted asked “How about rooting for America, you liberal scumbag.” In response to that picture, I still want to know:

Why is caring about parents, widows and orphans of killed soldiers not considered rooting for America?

Why is exposing this administration not considered rooting for America?

Why is thinking that a political solution is what is needed, not a military one, not rooting for America?

To me, these things, caring about our citizens, freedom of the press, and trying to find a better solution, are very much part of the American way. Supporting them is very much “rooting for America.” Why do you think otherwise?

But to respond to your post, first, I never said I exposed anything, so why the retort “you haven’t exposed anything?” I wasn’t trying to expose anything.

And also, why the insult “you really don’t understand what is going on?” I wasn’t speaking to what is going on, so how do you know whether or not I understand it?

[Porsche_monkey]

Actually a lot of soldiers that VOLUNTEERED for the military never expected to see active duty. Not all, not even most, but lots. Don't try to tell us this war is supported 100% by the military and their families, they have the same doubts and concerns that the rest of the world has.

[thrown_hammer]

Originally posted by PBH
Actually a lot of soldiers that VOLUNTEERED for the military never expected to see active duty.

That is like getting hired as a rodeo clown and never expecting to get the bull by the horns.

[Porsche_monkey]

Originally posted by thrown_hammer
That is like getting hired as a rodeo clown and never expecting to get the bull by the horns.

I agree, but there are Americans living here for that reason. They haven't all deserted, but some have.

[Racerbvd]

Originally posted by PBH
I agree, but there are Americans living here for that reason. They haven't all deserted, but some have.

First, I never said 100%, but most, by far do support this action. You can keep the loosers who defect to your country, we don't need that Pansy a$$ type leaving fellow Americans in a lurch

How many years has this conflict gone on now, , who in their right mind would think there might not have to go, hell, anyone who signs up not thinking that they may have to do what the signed up for, deserves what they get!!

Why is caring about parents, widows and orphans of killed soldiers not considered rooting for America?

When you use them to push your socialist agenda like cindy is

Why is exposing this administration not considered rooting for America?

What have you exposed?? Nothing,

Why is thinking that a political solution is what is needed, not a military one, not rooting for America?


How many years do you let them get away with not following the cease fire they signed, how close do you let them get to building a nuke?? We know they had WMD, we sold them to them, they were to prove they were destroyed, they refused too. We now also know that france, Russia & Germany were buying oil illegally.

Iraq was also funding terrorist. Now enjoy your deserters

[on-ramp]

Originally posted by Racerbvd


Iraq was also funding terrorist. Now enjoy your deserters

so are 1/2 the countries on the planet. you gonna invade those too?