Crazy Newt, "I fell short of God's standards"

[john70t]

Originally posted by Rearden
For somebody who claims to have a clue, you don't. Take a minute and learn about Clinton's impeachment. That's right -- it isn't about sex. Infidelity is not a crime in this country.

Isn't it about lying to congress? Knowingly, and with true conviction and the damage to the nation it causes?
Attaboy. I totally agree. Well said there.


As far as I understand, the presidents personal marital relations shouldn't be relevant to his abilities to govern unless there is probably cause otherwise.
[But if you're o.k. with the Federal Executive Branch of Government in your bedroom, then peeping tom at the window to you].

[island911]

Originally posted by hytem
Baloney. ....

Right . . .. and you genera just now found out why Gingrich stepped down YEARS AGO.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by island911
Right . . .. and you genera just now found out why Gingrich stepped down YEARS AGO.

And the "bimbo erruptions" problem now is being taken care of, maybe.

[Rearden]

Nobody is claiming that Newt lied under oath while he was being deposed. That's the difference.

[72doug2,2S]

Perjurer Bill aside, A comment on the title.

Falling short of God's law.
Not one is without sin. We are all deserving of eternal damnation. Fortunately for Christians, Christ's righteousness is imputed to the elect along with the propitiation of sin and thus, for those able to believe, escaping the eternal damnation.

The difference between Clinton and Newt, theologically speaking, is Newt, I believe, is not guilty of Antinomianism.

[fastpat]

Originally posted by 72doug2,2S
Perjurer Bill aside, A comment on the title.

Falling short of God's law.
Not one is without sin. We are all deserving of eternal damnation. Fortunately for Christians, Christ's righteousness is imputed to the elect along with the propitiation of sin and thus, for those able to believe, escaping the eternal damnation.

The difference between Clinton and Newt, theologically speaking, is Newt, I believe, is not guilty of Antinomianism.

That, my friend, is quite irrelevant.

[Jim Richards]

I especially like how ol' Newt handled the divorce from his first wife.

He's made his life's work pandering to the religious right...I guess they're OK with his unbridled sleaze since he's gonna push their hot-button issues, unlike Rudy G. LOL.

[72doug2,2S]

Hit a sore spot Pat?

[fastpat]

Originally posted by 72doug2,2S
Hit a sore spot Pat?

Not hardly.

[techweenie]

Old news. Newt was going to choir practice with his GF then off to bonk her afterward when he was married to someone else. Oh, and don't forget Henry Hyde, who brought his mistress to the impeachment hearings...

Moral superiority is an easy claim to make. Maybe a little tougher to live up to...

Remember, this administration promised to be morally superior to the last, but easily outsleazes the worst in U.S. history.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by techweenie
Old news. Newt was going to choir practice with his GF then off to bonk her afterward when he was married to someone else. Oh, and don't forget Henry Hyde, who brought his mistress to the impeachment hearings...

Moral superiority is an easy claim to make. Maybe a little tougher to live up to...

Remember, this administration promised to be morally superior to the last, but easily outsleazes the worst in U.S. history.

Amazing how you guys seem to keep trying to convince yourself that an impeachment for lying under oath is something else. Everything the Democrats say or do these days always seem to be nothing but a lie.
The news about Newt's infidelity is nothing new. He admitted it many years ago (instead of lying like a Democrat).

[fastpat]

Originally posted by fintstone
He admitted it many years ago (instead of lying like a Democrat).

Newt brought it up, it needs to be looked at in context with the man he went after for doing the same thing as an indicator of integrity.

You're attempting to confuse the impeachment of Bill Clinton with the public outcry, fueled by Gingrich and other neo-con toadies, over the sexual acts of Clinton. We're not talking about the impeachment in this thread.

This is all about Gingrich's chanting about the improprieties of Clinton while doing exactly the same things, and more of them.

[Joeaksa]

Originally posted by fastpat
I intend to politically drown the farker.

Like its worked in the past?

[fastpat]

Originally posted by Joeaksa
Like its worked in the past?

He's not in office now, and I'm working to prevent his return to any government office.

[jyl]

Seems like to be a favorite politico of the religious right these days, you have to be a serial divorcer and the more extra-marital affairs the better.

I think Guliani and Newt are tied in divorces (2 each). Guiliani may have the edge in affairs (since his were so public) but then again maybe a secret affair scores higher (which would favor Newt).

You also have to be a hypocrite, it seems. Newt offers some good old-fashioned hypocrisy, Guiliani tries to substitute flip-flopping. I think Newt has the edge here, but Guiliani has plenty more flip-flopping in him.

Anyway, it is going to be a real horse race between these two shining examples of marital fidelity and other conservative Christian values [ha!].

Pity poor McCain, with only one divorce, and Romney, with none. Maybe they can catch up - I'd advise them to start divorce proceedings now. \

[fastpat]

Originally posted by jyl
Seems like to be a favorite politico of the religious right these days, you have to be a serial divorcer and the more extra-marital affairs the better.

I think Guliani and Newt are tied in divorces (2 each). Guiliani may have the edge in affairs (since his were so public) but then again maybe a secret affair scores higher (which would favor Newt).

You also have to be a hypocrite, it seems. Newt offers some good old-fashioned hypocrisy, Guiliani tries to substitute flip-flopping. I think Newt has the edge here, but Guiliani has plenty more flip-flopping in him.

Anyway, it is going to be a real horse race between these two shining examples of marital fidelity and other conservative Christian values [ha!].

Pity poor McCain, with only one divorce, and Romney, with none. Maybe they can catch up - I'd advise them to start divorce proceedings now. \

I think Romney could substitute a wife beating for a divorce. You know, one black eye and nothing permanently damaged. Then the wife says they've prayed about it and it's brought them closer together. Falwell will wet himself.

[fintstone]

Originally posted by jyl
Seems like to be a favorite politico of the religious right these days, you have to be a serial divorcer and the more extra-marital affairs the better.

I think Guliani and Newt are tied in divorces (2 each). Guiliani may have the edge in affairs (since his were so public) but then again maybe a secret affair scores higher (which would favor Newt).

You also have to be a hypocrite, it seems. Newt offers some good old-fashioned hypocrisy, Guiliani tries to substitute flip-flopping. I think Newt has the edge here, but Guiliani has plenty more flip-flopping in him.

Anyway, it is going to be a real horse race between these two shining examples of marital fidelity and other conservative Christian values [ha!].

Pity poor McCain, with only one divorce, and Romney, with none. Maybe they can catch up - I'd advise them to start divorce proceedings now. \

Apparently the liberal standard of this board is that cheating is preferable to divorce and one should stick to women that will allow one to cheat throughout the marriage, don't mind being publicly shamed, have no problem with paying off the other woman to "make it go away"...and lie under oath if necessary. I'm glad liberals are not considered moral watchdogs by anyone other than themselves.

[sammyg2]

Dan, just because you and Bill would both lie about it does not make it right. That's the whole point.

[Turbo_pro]

We are all imperfect. You can always attach the messenger when it comes to issues of morality. We still need to hear the message.
Your indignation over Newts admission seems somewhat disingenuous. Hypocrisy aside, Bill & Hillary Cinton were a smarmy embarrassment. In the same situations most people of conscience, that is most people would respond differently. I get that you guys dig Bill (dead bodies, rape allegations, furniture theft et al) so party on dudes but remember everything that happened to Bill happened because of his own ego.

[Jim Richards]