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Old 03-16-2007, 03:24 PM
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The spy aspect makes here sooooo friggin' hot. I'd hit that until I heard bones rubbing.
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She was using her occupation as a safe place from which to attack Bush. She believed she could not be touched yet could attack at will. Does no one else see this as abusing her position? Sending her husband on politically-motivated errands under the guise of "intelligence"?

Besides, her occupation was as well kept a secret as Rosie O'Donnell's sexuality.
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If YOU exposed a secret spy of the CIA, you go to prison for many many years, because you'd be endangering lives, you would be a traitor, blah blah blah...

when our government does it, nothing happens. why is that?
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I haven't been following it very closely, but there seems to be no dispute that there were no laws violated.

True?
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I haven't been following it very closely, but there seems to be no dispute that there were no laws violated.

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Why is "Scooter" in jail?
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From what I understand, obstruction of justice in a matter where there was no underlying crime shown or charges brought.
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Yeah, they're just holding Congressional hearings as an excuse to get together and chat. You and the rest of the neocons just go on pretending that nothing's happening. Meanwhile, we're going to watch a house of cards fall. America needs a Deep Throat. I know I do.
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True. Besides, she and her husband actually caused her to be "outed." Clearly her quick follow-up spread in Vanity Fair was what really killed any possibility of anonymity...but brought in the big-buck book deal.
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Let's just stick to whether she is attractive, I want to hear from you guys who are always trying to pawn Ann Coultier off as a woman. I've known some Republicans who were pretty good hunters and had smoking hot chicks, so I can't understand the AC thing. She's a stanky swamp donkey, and that's on a good day. AC could work at one of those fundamental Christian re-programming camps where they are trying to convert lesbians to cock.
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Yeah, they're just holding Congressional hearings as an excuse to get together and chat. You and the rest of the neocons just go on pretending that nothing's happening. Meanwhile, we're going to watch a house of cards fall. America needs a Deep Throat. I know I do.
Is what I said true or false?

I'm not taking a position, I don't know the answer because I haven't been following it closely.

What crime is alleged in her "outing," and who is alleged to have committed it?
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From what I understand, obstruction of justice in a matter where there was no underlying crime shown or charges brought.
Riiiiight. If you ever learn the identity of a covert CIA agent, call the Associated Press. It'll be fun.
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Yeah, they're just holding Congressional hearings as an excuse to get together and chat. You and the rest of the neocons just go on pretending that nothing's happening. Meanwhile, we're going to watch a house of cards fall. America needs a Deep Throat. I know I do.
Just a political witch-hunt. Clearly if the law had been broken, the years of investigation by a special prosecutor would have found it.
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Riiiiight. If you ever learn the identity of a covert CIA agent, call the Associated Press. It'll be fun.
I'd imagine it is a crime to "out" a covert CIA agent.

Who has been accused of that crime in the Plame matter?
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This woman is not ugly but she's certainly not hot either. She doesn't even rate on the finger scale.
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I would truly like to know the answer, like I said, I haven't been following it (not that interesting to me).

But on one of the talking heads show today that had a panel ranging from left to right on the political spectrum, they ALL seemed to agree that there was no underlying crime committed, or even alleged by Plame.

That took me by surprise. If there is no underlying allegation of a crime on the table anymore, what is this all about?
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Dude, first your indecent proposal to Livi, now this?

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From what I understand, obstruction of justice in a matter where there was no underlying crime shown or charges brought.
Leading from the Plame investigation. That's how "Scooter" got himself investigated in the first place.
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Is what I said true or false?

I'm not taking a position, I don't know the answer because I haven't been following it closely.

What crime is alleged in her "outing," and who is alleged to have committed it?
Ironically, it was under Bush 1 that knowingly outing an undercover operative became a treasonous crime. It's called the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982.

The neo conned have tried every tactic to explain away the illegal nature of her outing. And it mostly comes down to that 'knowingly' part -- which AFAIK is the key reason Fitzpatrick didn't play the treason card. There is also the question of whether Plame was undercover overseas in the prior 5 years before her 'outing' which is a condition of this specific law.

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