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Actually both sides are spending like pigs- just on their own special interests. Remember the anti- earmarking bill Pelosi so grandly passed and the MSM hyped as the dawn of a new age?

Deader than a flat frog on Philadelphia freeway on the 4th of February.

The biggest earmarkers are on both sides of the aisle. Byrd, Stevens and Murphy were not going to give up what got them there.

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Obama is just too liberal........... If his presidency were a movie it would be called Jimmy Carter 2- the horror returns.


bingo.. a depressed voter looking for something to believe in is the perfect set for Obama.. unless the voter believes we need another war President?

the set worked for Carter so it's not an impossibility.
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bingo.. a depressed voter looking for something to believe in is the perfect set for Obama.. unless the voter believes we need another war President?

the set worked for Carter so it's not an impossibility.
The only way that the hypothetical candidate you describe gets elected, (the scary hyper-liberal), is on the heals of a Republican administration that is lower than whale schit on the bottom of the ocean in voters' eyes. So you might be on to something there...

And no, I don't think that people are looking for another self-described "war President" who starts BS wars and doesn't know how to extricate us from them. That's not selling real well.
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Depending on who the Republican and Demcocrat are, I could vote for Lieberman. I've voted 3rd party before....
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I could easily vote for Lieberman. I'd much rather vote for a honest man with a realistic world view, even if I disagree with most of his other positions, than just vote against someone else because they were the lesser of two evils. Liebermann is a good man, but I don't agree with him on much beyond nat. security.
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Depending on who the Republican and Demcocrat are, I could vote for Lieberman. I've voted 3rd party before....
AH would that be some kind of moral victory b/c other than that it would be a total waste of time, gas money to drive there, oxygen and everything else you can think of. You might as well vote for either the winner or the loser right? To vote 3rd party is just like throwing your hands up in the air in disgust isn't it.
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I used to think that, too, and I guess I probably still do, but there is some legitimacy to voting for a third party candidate.

It's more of a long term view, though.

The only chance of a third party ever arising is if at some point, people start voting for third party candidates. It has to start somewhere, and will start slow. So at the present, yes, a vote for a third party candidate is a "wasted" vote, in a current election, but perhaps it helps lay the groundwork for the future.
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I get the impression "you can call me Al - Gore" is not the favorite candidate for many of you.

He SEEMS to care for the global environment. Thatīs a good thing, isnīt it ?
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AH would that be some kind of moral victory b/c other than that it would be a total waste of time, gas money to drive there, oxygen and everything else you can think of. You might as well vote for either the winner or the loser right? To vote 3rd party is just like throwing your hands up in the air in disgust isn't it.
I agree and will NOT be voting for a George Wallace, Ross Perot, Ralph Nader type, no chance.
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He SEEMS to care for the global environment. Thatīs a good thing, isnīt it ?
You haven't heard about his personal carbon footprint yet?
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I get the impression "you can call me Al - Gore" is not the favorite candidate for many of you.

He SEEMS to care for the global environment. Thatīs a good thing, isnīt it ?
Despite all the thrashing here it IS a good thing to care about it and I LIKE Gore and I'd have no problem voting for him.

But maybe that's because I don't find him "scary" or need my Mommy and my jammies when I hear him speak
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He was interviewed on a talk show here in Sweden recently. I do not know much about him or his agenda, but he seemed like a pleasant, well versed guy. Very normal - in a positive way.
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He was interviewed on a talk show here in Sweden recently. I do not know much about him or his agenda, but he seemed like a pleasant, well versed guy. Very normal - in a positive way.
I don't know how long ago you saw that interview but one of the refreshing things about Al Gore for a while at least was that he DIDN'T think he was running for anything, so he could be himself - something someone actually running for office can't readily do. They're constantly on guard.

When Al thought he wasn't running, he grew a beard, got chubby, started talking about whatever the hell he wanted to talk about and generally made fun of his own "wooden" image. Which (in my opinion) made him a MUCH more appealing person. "Hey look, he's just like me!" (Well, except I'm not a millionaire!)

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