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I actually have done a bit of it, but I hate it (especially ceilings!). I hope my wife does not read this. She can't quite figure out how I can build an airplane from scratch, rebuild engines, paint cars etc, yet I don't seem to know how to do landscaping or remodeling

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Old 05-30-2007, 11:23 AM
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Maybe Tim and his wife are looking to adopt an older "couple"
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... yet I don't seem to know how to do landscaping or remodeling
Tim is a VERY smart man too
Old 05-30-2007, 11:28 AM
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Old 05-30-2007, 11:35 AM
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If it is paneled, why not just paint it white? Painted paneling can look nice.

In the background of this pic, you can see that our downstairs paneling has been painted and I think it looks OK.
I agreed with Tim: cover a section, see if you like it and take it from there. You'll be out a few hours labor and a pint of primer and paint.

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I actually have done a bit of it, but I hate it (especially ceilings!). I hope my wife does not read this. She can't quite figure out how I can build an airplane from scratch, rebuild engines, paint cars etc, yet I don't seem to know how to do landscaping or remodeling.
...that is profound knowledge! I'm begging you to do a self-help seminar
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I'm chuckling. Because the drywall suggestion is more expensive than you think. You empty the structure. Hang sheets. Mud/tape. Mud. Mud. Mud. Texture. Paint. Notice that it looks like a living room now and so, therefore, new lighting is probably a good idea, maybe a new window. Seal the floor. Sink. $25K and fourteeen months later, you're done. Or just slap two coats of good paint on it, and be done by Sunday at a total cost of $100.
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Supe,

what would you reccommend for exposed studs? My garage was built in 1920 and I'm pretty sure it's redwood paneling. It's dark and dingy. Can I just paint over it?
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I'm chuckling. Because the drywall suggestion is more expensive than you think. You empty the structure. Hang sheets. Mud/tape. Mud. Mud. Mud. Texture. Paint. Notice that it looks like a living room now and so, therefore, new lighting is probably a good idea, maybe a new window. Seal the floor. Sink. $25K and fourteeen months later, you're done. Or just slap two coats of good paint on it, and be done by Sunday at a total cost of $100.
I'm having the loft/office above my workspace (700 s/f)drywalled/mudded/textured in the next few weeks. Total cost, w/materials @ less than $2k. Insulation included in that price.

Wood paneling in an attached garage is not a good idea. Not fire-proof/resistant. If a car or piece of equipment catches fire, poof...there goes the entire home. At least with drywall, there is some fire resistancy, which will allow time to extinguish or evacuate. Codes requires 5/8" drywall in attached garages in most locales.
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I'm having the loft/office above my workspace (700 s/f)drywalled/mudded/textured in the next few weeks. Total cost, w/materials @ less than $2k. Insulation included in that price.

Wood paneling in an attached garage is not a good idea. Not fire-proof/resistant. If a car or piece of equipment catches fire, poof...there goes the entire home. At least with drywall, there is some fire resistancy, which will allow time to extinguish or evacuate. Codes requires 5/8" drywall in attached garages in most locales.
Safety Schmafety....Killjoy!

I'd still paint it just to "stick it to the man".

If I failed to burn down my parent's bare stud garage as a kid, I personally would not be too concerned about painting an existing paneled garage. But that is just me...we already know I like to live "on the edge"
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Good point. Especially if you do any welding....

We're not even allowed to mount a circuit breaker panel on plywood anymore, has to be drywall.
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I second the recommendation on using Kilz to primer the paneling. The paneling won't be as fire resistant but if you want to kill smells or stains that stuff is great.
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You guys are all wrong. I would install drywall THAN cover it with 4' x 8' FRP panels. They sell it at Loews and other places. You see it used in bathrooms of gas stations and fast food places, kitchens. It's 1/8th" thick and tough. They sell all the trim pieces to finish it off. I installed it in our laundry room and its great.

http://www.sdplastics.com/frpwallpanels.html
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You guys are all wrong. I would install drywall THAN cover it with 4' x 8' FRP panels.
Yeah...you really want to watch your garage go "poof", be sure to line it with FRP...ever watch a fiberglas boat burn?

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Supe,

what would you reccommend for exposed studs? My garage was built in 1920 and I'm pretty sure it's redwood paneling. It's dark and dingy. Can I just paint over it?
Yup. That's what I did to my property in Tenino. The garage was not well built and it wouldn't have made any sense to properly finish the interior. But it was dark (cedar stained dark red) and I wanted more light. I had most of a 5-gallon bucket of white paint left over from another project, so I bushed and rolled it on. It doubled the effective light and gave the garage a more spacious feel.
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Yeah...you really want to watch your garage go "poof", be sure to line it with FRP...ever watch a fiberglas boat burn?

As if all the paint, gas and oil won't burn? Get real, if you're worried about it burning, don't build it.
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As if all the paint, gas and oil won't burn? Get real, if you're worried about it burning, don't build it.
The FRP will sustain a fire. The drywall won't. Also, 5/8" drywall, if installed to code, has a minimum fire rating. So, the gasoline, oil & paint fire in your garage will be contained to your garage, and slowed from entering the living space, hopefully long eneough to extinguish or evacuate.
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Jeremy, looks great! What is Whirlpool Gladiator?

On painting paneling, Jeff, Supe, et al, I originally considered doing just that. We have an area in the livingroom that is paneled w/unfinished drywall underneath. It would have been too big of a mess to pull, tape, etc., so we simply painted it. It looks very good, but there is nothing under the paneling in the garage so it's very wavy and lacks sturdiness. I'm looking for something a bit more solid. Also-Fire rating is a very valid point I did not consider. Thanks for pointing that out. Like many, I have combustables in the garage and things can happen. As it sits, it would go up like tinder.

I have some drywall experience and a nice pneumatic Superlift that will work to hoist drywall to the ceiling. The garage is already pretty much cleaned out so all I need to do ( ) is remove the garage door opener and one '8' light. Not too bad. Yeah-the floor will look like crap by comparison once I'm done. Oh well. The slippery slope.
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there is a new drywall out that supposedly is more fire resistant than traditional paper faced drywall. don't recall the name but it was about $2 per sheet more than the normal stuff.

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