Fred Thompson on Jay Leno - Page 3

the · 09-06-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa

I'm most likely voting for Romney. Try to keep up.

You don't have to be a registered Republican in Mass. to vote in the Republican primary?

lyon · lyon's Garage

Bill Richardson / Dennis Kucinich.
Guys with brains and balls.
To bad most Americans have never heard of them.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee

So Shaun, who are you voting for in the general?

I'm following many serious candidates Rick:

Richardson: good VP marterial, better SecState
Huckabee: good VP material
Romney: most intelligent, savvy, overall best leader
Rudy: like what he did for NY, good leader overall
Obama: way too inexperienced, but a good guy to keep an eye on

I won't know for sure for some time, but right now the only 2 people who can actually lead this country in the right direction are Mitt and Rudy. No one else has the same combination of skills, intelligence, vision, passion, experience, etc.

this country is dying for real leadership and real vision, not red pick-ups or trips to Mars and a beer. only two people can deliver the goods. When Sean Hannity asked Fred the other day about his vision and mission for his prospective Presidency, he ran away from the question faster than he could ditch the staged red pick-up in TN once out of town.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

Kucinich has balls? Are you kidding me? That guy is a communist and it doesn't take much balls to say crazy stuff when no one knows who you are and you have no chance in hell of winning a single primary, nor even straw poll. He's a nut. Didn't he bankrupt whichever OH city he was mayor of years ago? Department of Peace? Yeah, that'll happen. Maybe he wave a wand too.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa

I'm following many serious candidates Rick:

Richardson: good VP marterial, better SecState
Huckabee: good VP material
Romney: most intelligent, savvy, overall best leader
Rudy: like what he did for NY, good leader overall
Obama: way too inexperienced, but a good guy to keep an eye on

I won't know for sure for some time, but right now the only 2 people who can actually lead this country in the right direction are Mitt and Rudy. No one else has the same combination of skills, intelligence, vision, passion, experience, etc.

this country is dying for real leadership and real vision, not red pick-ups or trips to Mars and a beer. only two people can deliver the goods.

I don't follow. Obama is 180 deg. opposed to the GOP candidates you mention. Do you choose your guy based on tv likeability or on issues? No Sec. of State is gonna have an easy job if the president doesn't back him up with threat of force. Do you see any Dem president doing that for Richardson if he heads State? Why is Huckabee good VP material, but Romney is your guy? Both were governors, one is devout Mormon, the other devout Baptist. Do they differ so much in views? And you whine about how packaged and polished Thompson is, yet say you like Romney over Huckabee? Romney (don't get me wrong, I like the guy) is about as polished as my grandma's silverware on hoildays. Huckabee seems to me to be the most honest and down to Earth, while doing a far better job of connecting with folks than Romney with a fraction of the campaign budget.

1fastredsc · 09-06-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Kucinich has balls? Are you kidding me? That guy is a communist and it doesn't take much balls to say crazy stuff when no one knows who you are and you have no chance in hell of winning a single primary, nor even straw poll. He's a nut. Didn't he bankrupt whichever OH city he was mayor of years ago? Department of Peace? Yeah, that'll happen. Maybe he wave a wand too.

Actually he seems to be more of a socialist, and by balls i think what he meant was that he's willing to say what he THINKS needs to be said instead of what the national opinion tells him the public wants to hear. Complete opposite of your boy FT who doesn't really seem to have an opinion, just reads off of what the general conservative opinion wants to hear. He'll probably be another bush too, trying and please the public in one hand while circle jerking big corporations and lobbyists in the other.
I'd actually like to see ron paul win but i know he won't, which is too bad since he actually has his OWN opinion.

M.D. Holloway · 09-06-2007, 10:27 AM

Popcorn causes cancer...Bush hates popcorn.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 09-06-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee

I don't follow. Obama is 180 deg. opposed to the GOP candidates you mention. Do you choose your guy based on tv likeability or on issues? No Sec. of State is gonna have an easy job if the president doesn't back him up with threat of force. Do you see any Dem president doing that for Richardson if he heads State? Why is Huckabee good VP material, but Romney is your guy? Both were governors, one is devout Mormon, the other devout Baptist. Do they differ so much in views? And you whine about how packaged and polished Thompson is, yet say you like Romney over Huckabee? Romney (don't get me wrong, I like the guy) is about as polished as my grandma's silverware on hoildays. Huckabee seems to me to be the most honest and down to Earth, while doing a far better job of connecting with folks than Romney with a fraction of the campaign budget.

There's a good mix of realism and subjectivity mixed into the list Rick and would take some time for me to balance out the issues.

Huckabee is clearly the best candidate as he talks a lot about PREVENTIVE policy measures versus reactive. That's great management and leadership. But he doesn't believe in evolution. Tough to balance that. I don't want our President to be another dufus.

Romney has one of the best track records of successful leadership in the country. No whining Rick. He's got the biggest balls of all of them and doesn't run away from questions like Fred does.

Obama is a natural leader. He is charismatic and has 1 or 2 good ideas. he needs 10 years on him to run for President to pull him a little more to the middle.

Time permitting, i map out fairly rational, complex decision trees for the candidates above, but sadly we don't have any beers or whiteboards on hand.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 09-06-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 1fastredsc

Actually he seems to be more of a socialist, and by balls i think what he meant was that he's willing to say what he THINKS needs to be said instead of what the national opinion tells him the public wants to hear. Complete opposite of your boy FT who doesn't really seem to have an opinion, just reads off of what the general conservative opinion wants to hear. He'll probably be another bush too, trying and please the public in one hand while circle jerking big corporations and lobbyists in the other.
I'd actually like to see ron paul win but i know he won't, which is too bad since he actually has his OWN opinion.

Excellent points.

Rick Lee · Rick Lee's Garage

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Originally Posted by 1fastredsc

Actually he seems to be more of a socialist, and by balls i think what he meant was that he's willing to say what he THINKS needs to be said instead of what the national opinion tells him the public wants to hear. Complete opposite of your boy FT who doesn't really seem to have an opinion, just reads off of what the general conservative opinion wants to hear. He'll probably be another bush too, trying and please the public in one hand while circle jerking big corporations and lobbyists in the other.
I'd actually like to see ron paul win but i know he won't, which is too bad since he actually has his OWN opinion.

If Kucinich really believes the psychobabble he spouts off, I'm even more relieved to know he'll never be president. I don't consider it that courageous to say crazy things, whether one believes them or not, when he already knows there's no risk in doing so. He's a nobody and he's only in the race because he's delusional enough to think he might influence the debate. My company somehow got on his fax list for a while and his press releases make less sense than any Onion issue.

lendaddy · 09-06-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 1fastredsc

Complete opposite of your boy FT who doesn't really seem to have an opinion, just reads off of what the general conservative opinion wants to hear.

As evidenced by????

Seriously, are you guys ever going to back up these comments? Is it just a generic charge to level?

1fastredsc · 09-06-2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee

If Kucinich really believes the psychobabble he spouts off, I'm even more relieved to know he'll never be president. I don't consider it that courageous to say crazy things, whether one believes them or not, when he already knows there's no risk in doing so. He's a nobody and he's only in the race because he's delusional enough to think he might influence the debate. My company somehow got on his fax list for a while and his press releases make less sense than any Onion issue.

Well then you could always go for the crazy and delusional on the inside but strickly conservative and crowd pleasing on the outside (after all it helps bring in votes). Matter of fact, we have a name for that, George W. Bush.

1fastredsc · 09-06-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lendaddy

As evidenced by????

Seriously, are you guys ever going to back up these comments? Is it just a generic charge to level?

I'm basing this off of watching him speak. He seems quick to spout one liners that create applause than to discuss how his planned idea will actually work.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 09-06-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lendaddy

As evidenced by????

Seriously, are you guys ever going to back up these comments? Is it just a generic charge to level?

I've read his press releases and posted some here. They are a joke and insult to anyone with half a brain.

lendaddy · 09-06-2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 1fastredsc

I'm basing this off of watching him speak. He seems quick to spout one liners that create applause than to discuss how his planned idea will actually work.

He's not been in a forum for that yet, he's not going to get into policy details on Leno. Go to his site, read a little and then tell me what you think.