crying wolf again

[nostatic]

I would venture a guess that very few of us know exactly what's going on over there. Neither those stateside *or* those in theater. The message gets skewed in both directions.

[rcecale]

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile

And they shoot and blow up the speedboats and what do you think the headlines say on Al Jazera?

"U.S. attacks unarmed pleasure craft with harmless wedding party on-board "

With lots of pictures. Tough call for the navy commander, but I probably would have suspected it was a ruse. Not to say I wouldn't have fired on them if they got too close though.

Fixed that mock quote for you P-O-P.

Randy

[Seric]

Originally Posted by Rearden

No, as P-O-P stated above, this was absolutely deliberate. Achmadinijad wanted the US to fire on the warships so he could create a "crisis" and distract the Middle East media away from the Bush meetings.

Oh I am aware of that, just in a sarcastic mood today.

[john70t]

Supposing a couple of Iranian planes repeatedly attacked the ship for over an hour trying to sink it........
http://www.gtr5.com/ Remember the USS Liberty.

[RoninLB]

They were testing their new Soviet electronics, testing when laser targeting activates, how they respond to mines, and finding out if the Navy has the brass to blast them.

I expect more sos.

[dd74]

If we attacked Iran with less than a year left in Bush's presidency, I wonder how a Dem will handle it.

1) Because, after all, it seems there's a strong chance Obama or Clinton will win in November.

2) A war with Iran won't end before Bush leaves office. Particularly if Russia feels it should get involved.

[rouxroux]

Quack, quack, Steve...Quack, quack.

[stevepaa]

Originally Posted by rouxroux

Quack, quack, Steve...Quack, quack.

You will have to be more elaborate in your response. I have no idea what you mean.

[Mule]

Originally Posted by FOG

Steve,

Well Snapper did mention your deliberate misquote, he forgot to mention that is his current location and happens to be handicapped with first hand information and a decade or two of training plus experience.

It is “interesting” to watch the transformation of someone when presented with raw facts vice fantasy BS.

FOG

What's more amazing is when they look the facts straight in the face & refuse to let reality get in the way of what they want to believe. I have come to the realization that in the world of true believers, there is only black and white, no grey. It doesn't matter whether the belief is in religion, politics, global warming, animal rights or whatever, it's still the same.

[stevepaa]

Originally Posted by Mule

What's more amazing is when they look the facts straight in the face & refuse to let reality get in the way of what they want to believe. I have come to the realization that in the world of true believers, there is only black and white, no grey. It doesn't matter whether the belief is in religion, politics, global warming, animal rights or whatever, it's still the same.

I agree, Mule.

[rouxroux]

Originally Posted by stevepaa

You will have to be more elaborate in your response. I have no idea what you mean.

Sorry Steve...I was referencing the old saying "If it walks like a duck..."

[stevepaa]

Anyone bother to watch the Iranian video. Seems to me there was no direct threat whatsoever and the voice was from somewhere else.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080114/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_us_navy;_ylt=AmT2qMQiX3ALQMpnXUWdCQmbOrgF

[Superman]

Steve. Please keep in mind that many here think foreign relations is best handled with a blunt tool. In this case, George W. Bush. If they wanted somebody with communication skills, they would have elected Jesse Ventura.

[Moneyguy1]

Funny, mule...I see the extreme right as being the ones that see only black and white and not shades of grey. The liberals are too busy sifting through too much information and therefore unable or at least reluctant to take a definite stand.

[70SATMan]

I think the Iranians got all nostalgic and wanted a twenty year reunion. I'm up for it.

[RoninLB]

Originally Posted by dd74

If we attacked Iran with less than a year left in Bush's presidency, I wonder how a Dem will handle it.

not gonna happen imo

Iran has a few months left to negotiate w/Bush before the Clintons takes over. They are afraid of a militarized Gulf with tons of US $ to buy weapons and invade them. Wars cost $ and Iran is broke. Iran will join Pax Americana or risk a losing war with its neighbors. Even Iran's military is only designed for public unrest.

As far as a religious influenced democracy is concerned, a successful Turkey shows Iran's policies are a failure and Iran's middle class knows it. Their last hope was an unstable Iraq they could influence.

When the religious head leader in Saudi Arabia recently announced that terrorism misguides youth it was another nail in Iran's terrorist stance.

For sure 2008 will be the time when the mid-east leaders will have to make strategic decisions. Bush's policies are uncomplicated and unwavering. He must really believe in God.

[Superman]

Unwaivering, yes. Intelligent and strategic, no. Ron, I'm not sure Dubya would understand what you just said. While Iran, Saudi Arabia and others are playing chess, Dubya is preparing for a wrestling match. That would be great, if only it WERE a wrestling match. It's not. It's a chess game. Sledge hammers don't help you win chess games.

[skipdup]

chess is for pu$$ies.

[Superman]

Wrestling is for Neanderthals.

[Racerbvd]

Why do liberals hate it when our President puts us first??? These people have been fighting since day one, they dopn't understand anything but a blunt action

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile
And they shoot and blow up the speedboats and what do you think the headlines say on Al Jazera?

"U.S. attacks unarmed pleasure craft with harmless wedding party on-board "

With lots of pictures. Tough call for the navy commander, but I probably would have suspected it was a ruse. Not to say I wouldn't have fired on them if they got too close though.

Or what cnn & npr would have said and the liberals on this board