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I believe someone on this thread asked this question. Both toyota and nissan plan on building a new rwd front engine 4 banger setup sometime in the next 2 years. I came across the article in autoblog sometime ago. So maybe there is a hope for a light weight rwd chassis that doesn't cost a bundle.
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http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/12/spy-shots-nissans-affordable-rwd-sports-car/
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/06/welcome-back-to-the-rumormill-toyota-developing-cheap-rwd-coupe/
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If you could get out the door with the 135 for under $40k then it would be quite a car. I keep thinking about getting one but I started pricing it out on their website with the same options I have in my VW and I was at $49K. $35K for the car, $15K for options. Heck, if I am going to spend $50K on a car, I am a whole new ball game.
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I like this car, it dosen't look that squashed. Of course I have a WRX. I am 6'5" and fit in it just fine.
  
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At $50, that's 1 year old Cayman territory.
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Plus I wonder where the Cayman would run against the 135 just from a performance aspect. I think the Cayman S is 295 horses and the 135 would is 300 horses.
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I really think the 4 cylinder idea has merit. The diesel idea even better. I think the cars fugly, overweight, and overpriced, but a smaller motor could potentially solve 2 of the 3 problems. Its too bad that BMW didn't sell this as a MINI, then they wouldn't feel that it has to be so "luxury" oriented, and we could have a proper sports sedan.
Am I alone in thinking that a 4 banger is more fun for my daily commute? I love driving my Honda to work and back, because I can use the gears, and it still has way more power than I ever need in a car that doesn't go to the track.
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Adding only the important stuff (sport package, 18" wheels, heated seats) my (yeah right) 135i is $38,929. I'm sure it still has way more toys than my Aero. Just think: if you skip the nav system, heated seats, etc, you save money AND weight!
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when available, heated seats are NOT an option.  and it doesn't even get that cold here. 
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Yes but you think they'd throw in the heated seats. I can turn my damn windshield wipers on and I can park my own car. I don't need those. But the nav and idrive thing might be kinda of cool.
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From what I read, avoid BMW i-Drive at all costs.
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Hmm, if this is true, I suppose it could change my mind somewhat...
BMW 135i beats Porsche Cayman S http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1433534
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...but then again, if the 130i wasn't a great shake, why would the 135i be much better (besides the obvious horsepower increase).
Top Gear - BMW 130i vs. VW Golf R32 http://youtube.com/watch?v=O9rFQPg0kbk
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Really, Clarkson's biggest knock was the price. He wasn't fond of the lack of interior space in the 4-door hatch, but that's not really an issue for the USA. He called it a better driver's car, and faster. What would his opinion be in the 70 HP stronger 135i?
Not taking anything away from the R32, it's a very nice car. Certainly not as trackworthy as the BMW however.
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I would say the most appealing part of the 135i is the twin turbo engine - 300hp. It is cheaper German horsepower so to speak. A 99/00 996 has about the same horsepower I believe at 295 and a used one will cost about 30-40k. So for the price range it is a heck of a car.
As to the R32, the car came with 240 HP which is probably a fair comparison to the 130i.
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For around $1200, you can put a Vishnu chip in it, and it increases torque by 100 lb/ft and hp by close to the same.
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Well I went to the BMW dealer and took this car for a spin yesterday. This is an awesome car. The power is constantly there and the brakes are absolutely incredible. I am really trying to talk myself out of this but I don't think I am going to be able to.
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1s are all over europe.....Diesels
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