Tiger Woods

[Tobra]

That list is a crock, how many people are there that can hit a 95 mph fastball and how many are there that can hit a quad skating? Also, a marathon is not that big a deal, a marathon in a good time is another thing entirely.

[TerryH]

Originally Posted by javadog

Today's news has Tiger out for the rest of the season. He's getting the knee redone. Also, he has a couple stress fractures of the tibia on that leg.

There went my Sunday afternoons.

JR

Tiger at 50% is still better than the rest of the world. Which is okay if he plays, but when he doesn't, tv golf basically sucks. Hell, it sucks when he plays too. At least he isn't winning by 20 shots lately. Maybe the PGA should make him play with one leg in a cast.

I miss the competitive golfers of the past and their personalities.

[BeyGon]

Originally Posted by TerryH

Tiger at 50% is still better than the rest of the world. Which is okay if he plays, but when he doesn't, tv golf basically sucks. Hell, it sucks when he plays too. At least he isn't winning by 20 shots lately. Maybe the PGA should make him play with one leg in a cast.

I miss the competitive golfers of the past and their personalities.

They are still around, look at Sergio spitting in the cup when he picked up his ball, Woody is a character, Rocco, Daley, Phil, Sabatinni, lots of people to watch.
I think when Tiger came on it woke the other players up, it seemed like they were in a trance, weren't working as hard as they are now.

[Buckterrier]

Haven't read the whole thread, (will go back and do that). But there is going to be some serious crow eating... torn ACL, two, countem' two stress fractures??????? His father didn't tell him he'd be the strongest mentally. He told him he'd never meet anyone mentally stronger. I for one believe him. Tiger didn't beat Rocco, (fantastic tourney and a piece of rasin pie for him), with his game. Tiger beat him with his mind. Rocco was beat on the 90th whole, he had nothing left.
Personally I am glad to watch history.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by cmccuist

Number 4 is considered part of the top 10.

Overlooked by me because it doesn't fit into my point!

LOL, seriously, i missed #4. Of course, #4 is not #1.

Originally Posted by MRM

How high on the top ten list does "Winning the US Open in sudden death on a knee that won't support my full weight because it needs full open reduction surgery" rank?

Compared to say, Winning a heavyweight fight in the 12th round after being pounded on by a huge brother (who if he were to hit a normal person would probably break them in half) for the first 11 rounds?

EXTREMELY LOW.

Compared to say, standing and blocking the plate with a 220lb fast as lightning Dominican man lowering his shoulder to barrel into you in the bottom of the 9th inning in a world series with 25 million people watching.

EXTREMELY LOW.

Compared to say, "going over the top" on 4th and inches from the 1 foot line in the 4th quarter of a close NFL game and getting hit mid-air by someone of Ronnie Lott or Steve Atwater's ilk.

EXTREMELY LOW.

Compared to say, driving the lane in a tie NBA basketball game as the clock ticks down to zero and simultaneously getting nailed by a 7' tall African's elbow as you slam dunk into a basket over 10 feet tall.

EXTREMELY LOW.

Compared to crossing the blue line and getting ANNIHILATED by the likes of Scott Stevens as you hang in there to make that game winning assist?

EXTREMELY LOW.

Need i continue? (We won't even get into MMA)

You want to talk Heroic? Emmit Smith playing an entire NFL playoff game and carrying his team to victory in the Meadowlands on frozen concrete despite having a separated shoulder. THAT is heroic. And i don't even like Emmit Smith.

Golf is the biggest panzy ass sport of all time. It makes soccer look tough. And this is coming from a Scotsman.

[Buckterrier]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Golf is the biggest panzy ass sport of all time. It makes soccer look tough. And this is coming from a Scotsman.

You apparently do nothing with your mind Sniper.
Wasn't it you who talked about POW's & cancer victims? That is what's called 'mental strength, lets say it together, "mental strength". Now I'm not comparing POW's with golfers but you obviously don't understand that term. It takes more mental strength to play golf at that level than any other sport IMHO. Most games especially team sports is reactionary, which athletes prefer. In golf, you just have your own demons. All you have are your own thoughts running through your head. To be able to stay that focused is nothing short of phenomenal.

I didn't realize having mental strengh meant one was a pansy.

[javadog]

m21sniper,

Nobody ever said golf was a physically tougher sport than boxing, or professional football. It does take a wee bit of skill, though.

Tell you what. Take a three iron and a bucket of balls to your favorite course on a breezy day. Stand 250 yards from the pin on your favorite hole and hit balls till you knock one within 10 feet of the pin. Be sure and count how many you hit before that, that are outside of ten feet. Report back to us when you're done.

Cheers,
JR

[widgeon13]

nobody here is going to hit a three iron 250 yds!!

[javadog]

Originally Posted by widgeon13

nobody here is going to hit a three iron 250 yds!!

Why not? Golf is easy, right?

JR

[mattdavis11]

Originally Posted by javadog

Why not? JR

Yeah, why not? It's no sweat to hit a low hook and let it run out.

[the]

lol, that didn't take long.

[m21sniper]

I never said it was easy. I said it's a mamby pamby pussy sport that, compared to any real sport, requires no athleticism at all.

It is not easy, by any stretch, but neither are lots of other non-sports related skills.

Old men play it. What more do you need to say?

[MisterB]

m21sniper - Is auto racing a "pussy" sport as well?

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by Buckterrier

It takes more mental strength to play golf at that level than any other sport IMHO. Most games especially team sports is reactionary, which athletes prefer. In golf, you just have your own demons. All you have are your own thoughts running through your head. To be able to stay that focused is nothing short of phenomenal.

Yes, clearly Golf requires more focus and concentration than fighting against the likes of a Mohammed Ali, Marvin Hagler, Mike Tyson, etc, etc, who will bust your skull wide open if you make even the slightest mistake in judgement or lose focus for even a split second..

Boxing is not called the sweet science for nothing.

Frankly, the things that you're saying make golfing unique can be found in any bar game like Darts, Shuffleboard, or Pool. Which is what i consider golfing to be basically. An outdoors bar game.

Heroic? A Heroic performance is that game a few years back when McNabb broke his leg and not only stayed in the game, but threw 5 touch down passes while barely able to walk to lead the Eagles to victory. THAT is mental toughness my friend.

[Buckterrier]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Yes, clearly Golf requires more focus and concentration than fighting against the likes of a Mohammed Ali, Marvin Hagler, Mike Tyson, etc, etc, who will bust your skull wide open if you make even the slightest mistake in judgement or lose focus for even a split second..

Boxing is not called the sweet science for nothing.

Frankly, the things that you're saying make golfing unique can be found in any bar game like Darts, Shuffleboard, or Pool. Which is what i consider golfing to be basically. An outdoors bar game.

You forgot bacci ball

Isn't boxing reactionary?
In golf here's the difference in a player with mental toughness and not...
Phil Mickelson.. a 9 on 13, (loved it).
Tiger Woods... a birdie on the 18 to force a playoff.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by widgeon13

nobody here is going to hit a three iron 250 yds!!

I don't even play golf and I can do that easily, I hit a 5 iron better than 200 yards last time I picked one up

If you don't think golf requires any physical ability, you don't know what you are talking about, simple as that

[m21sniper]

BuckTerrier: Boxing is only reactionary if you're ceding the initiative.

For the aggressor, it is obviously pro-active.

I'm not saying golf isn't hard. I'm saying you don't have to be an athlete to play it (seriously, little old men play this game), and that it's not a sport in the same vien as say hockey or football.
Darts is extremely, extremely difficult too. The top players are ******* amazing, but it's still not comparable to a safety filling the hole to try and stop someone like Earl Campbell (30 times a game!).

[Tobra]

You are confusing physically demanding with physically punishing.

[m21sniper]

Golf is neither. Little old men play it. Fat, fat sloppy men play it too. I've seen both on Golf Courses. Not that i frequent them often. But i have played. Fat out of shape women play it too.

My main problem with it on a personal participation level, is that it's as boring to play as it is to watch.

[mattdavis11]

Everything except titties and ******* is boring when you suck at it.