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dipso · 02:20 PM

Well, That sure seemed to quite everyone down. Don't like facts much?

The UN approved "use of force" if needed to remove Saddams wmd.
The evidence for wmd was not there. There was a bunch of faked documents, and a lot of wishful thinking all wrapped up in a nice little package of paranoia and greed.

The UN resolution required Bush to return to the UN to get approval for "use of force" if needed. He never did that because he knew there was no evidence to support his claims. In fact the inspectors on the ground there said there were none.
That is why this invasion is illegal, it's simple. He never returned for approval.

The UN would never allow the invasion of a sovereign nation, that didn't attack you, based on forgeries and cooked up intelligence, courtesy of Israel.
I am sure the UN is a little more diligent in their fact checking than Fox news.
They knew that going in , that is why they invaded without getting approval.

Hard-Deck · 08-14-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rcecale

Despite the rantings of a few of the resident lunatics here, this war is NOT illegal. If it were, GWB would have been impeached long ago, tried in international court, etc, etc, etc...
......Similarly, when your President orders you to war, (a war he was authorized by Congress to declare), you go to war. The order is a lawful order and must be obeyed. Failure to obey a lawful order should result in strict disciplinary action against the individual.

Randy

Spot-on. 'Nuff said.

fintstone · fintstone's Garage

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Originally Posted by dipso

...The United Nations secretary general, Kofi Annan, declared explicitly for the first time last night that the US-led war on Iraq was illegal...

Why would anyone care what Kofi Annan says?

Hard-Deck · 08-14-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone

Why would anyone care what Kofi Annan says?

Because he's such an upstanding person and spokesman for the Left.

dipso · 08-14-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone

Why would anyone care what Kofi Annan says?

Because Sammy said that the invasion was UN approved. I was just pointing out that it was not approved.

Removing Saddams WMD was approved. Using force to do it was never approved.
It might of been, if there were any, and Saddam refused to give them up.

But that is a different story, and here we are years later, illegally in a sovereign nation, bankrupt, embarrassed, blowing things up.

Hard-Deck · 08-14-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dipso

Removing Saddams WMD was approved. Using force to do it was never approved.
It might of been, if there were any, and Saddam refused to give them up.

Oh....My....GOD!

dipso · 08-14-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapper33

Oh....My....GOD!

You didn't know that? Oh sorry, I thought most people did. You must be a Fox watcher.
Here is some more info for you.
Congress approved the war in preparation for the UN vote, but Bush went in illegally instead.

"In the run-up to the Iraq War approval by the U.S. Congress had to be secured first. It happened, in a lopsided voting on October 11, 2002, a Friday, and with a vote of 77-23, the U.S. Senate gave their official Iraq War approval.

The Congressional resolution at the time authorized President Bush to use the U.S. armed forces to defend U.S. national security against the continuing threat posed by Iraq, and to enforce all UN resolutions. Of the 50 Republican senators then, 48 voted in favor of the resolution; of the 50 Democratic senators, 29 voted in favor while 21 against.

This resounding vote giving Iraq War approval would put pressure on the UN Security Council, since the US already had the legal authority to go to war. The Security Council was to debate the Iraq issue the following Wednesday, October 16. The Saturday after the Senate vote, President Bush said that Congress had spoken clearly to the UN Security Council: "Inaction is not an option, disarmament is a must."

It would not be that easy to get the Security Council's Iraq War approval. Ireland would voice opposition, as did France and Russia, both permanent members of the council. Eventually, the Security Council debates on the issue would paralyze the council and no final vote on whether to give Iraq War approval would be taken."

Hard-Deck · 08-14-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dipso

You didn't know that? Oh sorry, I thought most people did. You must be a Fox watcher.

I know way more than you. I've been there three times. How many have you?

Man up or shut-up is what I tell my boys. They all man-up.

dipso · 08-14-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Snapper33

I know way more than you. .

Obviously not.

Hard-Deck · 08-14-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dipso

Obviously not.

Troll on, non-hacker.

fintstone · fintstone's Garage

[QUOTE=dipso;4120681]Because Sammy said that the invasion was UN approved. I was just pointing out that it was not approved...QUOTE]

Kofi Annan did not/does not approve anything.

Why does anything he says matter?

fintstone · fintstone's Garage

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Originally Posted by dipso

You didn't know that? Oh sorry, I thought most people did. You must be a Fox watcher.
Here is some more info for you.
Congress approved the war in preparation for the UN vote, but Bush went in illegally instead.

"In the run-up to the Iraq War approval by the U.S. Congress had to be secured first. It happened, in a lopsided voting on October 11, 2002, a Friday, and with a vote of 77-23, the U.S. Senate gave their official Iraq War approval.

The Congressional resolution at the time authorized President Bush to use the U.S. armed forces to defend U.S. national security against the continuing threat posed by Iraq, and to enforce all UN resolutions. Of the 50 Republican senators then, 48 voted in favor of the resolution; of the 50 Democratic senators, 29 voted in favor while 21 against.

This resounding vote giving Iraq War approval would put pressure on the UN Security Council, since the US already had the legal authority to go to war. The Security Council was to debate the Iraq issue the following Wednesday, October 16. The Saturday after the Senate vote, President Bush said that Congress had spoken clearly to the UN Security Council: "Inaction is not an option, disarmament is a must."

It would not be that easy to get the Security Council's Iraq War approval. Ireland would voice opposition, as did France and Russia, both permanent members of the council. Eventually, the Security Council debates on the issue would paralyze the council and no final vote on whether to give Iraq War approval would be taken."

I don't know which anti-war website you copied that from...but it is just not accurate. It is not what the resolution says.

dipso · 08-14-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dipso

Because Sammy said that the invasion was UN approved. I was just pointing out that it was not approved...QUOTE]

Kofi Annan did not/does not approve anything.

Why does anything he says matter?

Kofi Annan was the secretary-general of the UN during the period in question.

Everybody is angry and drunk tonight. Did a new poll come out.

fintstone · fintstone's Garage

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Originally Posted by fintstone

Kofi Annan was the secretary-general of the UN during the period in question.

Everybody is angry and drunk tonight. Did a new poll come out.

...and you think that gave him the power to decide anything?

BeyGon · 08-14-2008, 08:11 PM

The weasel is farting in the forest again, ignor it.

dipso · 08-14-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dipso

...and you think that gave him the power to decide anything?

Damn flintstone, nobody ever said he made the decisions.

Read slower if it helps your comprehension.

fintstone · fintstone's Garage

[QUOTE=dipso;4121136]

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Originally Posted by fintstone

Damn flintstone, nobody ever said he made the decisions.

Read slower if it helps your comprehension.

So...why exactly did you post the quote from Annan?