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Schumacher also displays the better throttle control, he keeps his throttle at midlevel for certain times, rather then WOT and lift like Barrichello does, obviously Barri has to lift completely cause his foot isn't even on the pedal anymore.
but even when they are both off the brake, Barry is not keeping his throttle halfway, Schumacher does keep his throttle at 40 even, or 60 even %..
Even his brake pedal control is much better, Barry does a stick and jab, while schumacher can dose it properly.



Odd that Barri doesn't left foot brake , he started off as a karting champ too, just like Schumacher
I can only think that he never figured out the pedal dancing once he left Karting and got an extra pedal to deal with.

Amongst other situations, i tend to have my left foot on my brake when i pass known speed traps. It gives me that extra bit of response time if i spot 50 on the center divider wit their little flashing camera.
I'll also use it in the snow

I've had the windschield experience too, that's what i'm saying, it's not the left foot on the pedal that's difficult, it's the dancing around from pedal to pedal and sharing the middle one with 2 feet.

Last thing you want is an E-brake situation, and 2 feet that both point at the other one going "your turn!" or both feet getting in the way of eachother on the way to that pedal..

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Sorry stijn, I've been in the pickup and out of cell service....

Who said anything about left foot throttle???

My 944 pedals are just like they came stock, and Ive gotten pretty salty at the heel-toe under braking.
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well you said you can't practice throttle control in a kart cause the pedals are seperated.
Why would that matter considering that most people only use the right foot for the gas pedal?
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Pedal position and throttle control were two seperate thoughts. I just don't see a kart as good left foot braking practice, it's the only brake choice you've got, it's what you will naturally use....

And I just don't think there is enough range in the throttle on most rental carts to give a good feel to get really good at throttle control.
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well it's the lack of range that makes for good practice .
The less travel, the more precise you gotta be.

And if you only got one pedal, you learn to dose your left foot, with the heel to the floor as opposed to the thigh muscles like the stick said.
And obviously it won't teach you pedal dancing, but that's pedal dancing, not left foot braking.
As has been said, left foot braking isn't difficult , it's the pedal dancing that is difficult to figure out.. That's another ability , besides left foot braking.
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My first car as a teenager was an automatic transmissioned MBZ. So after I got my license, I decided to left-foot brake 'cause I figured it would lead to a faster reaction time (and because that's how the some race car drivers did it, I read). So I naturally left-foot brake in an auto car. It's not that hard to pick up. But I haven't really done it in a manual-tranny car, yet.
And that scares the crap out of me. Very dangerous. One of the first off road excursions I took as a passenger, was because the kid drove with two feet.
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At the time the comparison between Schumacher and Barrichello was done, Barrichello was the only one even coming close to beating Micheal, and did on a few tracks despite his lack of left foot braking.
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Have you ever watched a video of Ayrton Senna's pedal work. That guy pumped the throttle all the way thru a corner, on off on off on off.
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+1 for left foot braking.
Racing karts for ten years as a young boy it is all I know.
Stick gives some good reasons why its a good system.

In a kart its not the same as a car.
To drive a kart fast, the brake is a fast stab to set the rear end up for the corner.
!00% brake or 100% throttle, no grey area.
Karting is the best driver training you can do.

In a car you have gears, so the transition is slower.
I feel the same principals apply, apart from the gears.
I dont feel that its a great advantage to left foot brake in a car with gears/clutch.
Even though I do it.
Without a clutch, then left foot is a must. ( karts, F1)

If you have a turbo, do what you can to keep it on boost.
Stick likes to trail brake.
I like to brake hard and apply the throttle early to time max boost with the apex.
Whatever floats your boat.
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The only cart I drove much was the one my brother & I built from scrap steel and a discarded lawn mower. We had no welding available and no adult supervision. Heck we used the wheels from a golf bag pull along for steering. The throttle was a pair of vice grips that you had to use your left hand to pull down so you only had your right hand to steer.

Oh, and the only brakes were the version used by the Flintstones. It is amazing we survived the thing. It was still fun.
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That go cart was advanced design compared to the "motorcycle" we build with a lawn mower engine and a bicycle frame. We put over 2,000 miles on that two wheel contraption on the cane roads and pineapple roads in Hawaii. We went place no white boys had ever seen before.
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I take it your father was in the military? (Hawaii -> now Oklahoma)
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Good evening guys.

I am ready to go to work tomorrow so I can relax. It has been a busy but productive long weekend. All three cars are clean and purdy. The 911 is locked and under the car cover in it's corner of the garage. I got to drive it long enough to get the engine all warmed up and be able to check the oil level.
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I take it your father was in the military? (Hawaii -> now Oklahoma)
Yep, he was an Air Force pilot. We had two tours in Hawaii. 1958 to 1962 & 1967 to 1971. We also did San Marcos Texas, and Montgomery Alabama.
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Cool, what did he fly?
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i've tried the heel/toe technique in my car. unfortunately, the pedal height is not setup well for this.
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It's not too bad with a smooth soled pair of shoes like pilotis.
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My dad was flying cargo. Early days he was in C-124 then C-47s. He was expecting to fly the C-5a when he was grounded for health issues.
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i've tried the heel/toe technique in my car. unfortunately, the pedal height is not setup well for this.
I know what you mean.

You can buy the pedal with the wide lower section.
This may help, D.

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