Stijn!!

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

The new iPhone 11 is supposed to be water resistant under water for a few hours. I am not gonna test that.

Years ago my wife's Motorola flip phone fell out of her pocket and into the dutch oven with ham in it. Smelled like ham for years afterwards but still worked fine.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by Porsche-poor

in 1984 I still had a year to go in high school.

I had two years to go but had already been using and programming computers for a few years by then. Had to teach our computer teacher to teach us. Our shop teacher had a IIe that he thought was awesome but got confused when I asked about caps and lower and special characters. In 1984 our team (1 of three from our school) got second in the state programming competition. I wrote two of the three programs we had to write. Those were the simple days.

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by RKDinOKC

In the 90's friend of mine put a system together to demo to the cable companies for video on-demand. It was a file server for movies/TV. It used a mac so it could access and serve a 4TB raid. PC could not access that large of a drive back then.

When I had my first Mac was so happy when was able to get a 20meg hard drive. The single 3.5 400K floppy had to swap disks all the time. One for the program, one for data. Didn't have that with the AppleIIc, the 5.25 floppy was big enough for program and data. The first program to require 2 400K floppies was Pagemaker. Then the 400K disk was upgraded to double sided for 800K.

Had a 300 baud Apple modem. You sent AT to the modem to get it's attention for commands. Type ATTD for Attention Tone Dial, then the number. If you accidentally sent ET instead of AT it would reply "phone home". Learned to read at 9600 baud when got a 9600 baud modem. Also when listing basic programs it listed them at 9600 baud on the screen.

Was doing the typesetting for the company catalog. Started by just typing the text, added notes for the font. size, margins, and taking the pages to the typesetter. Would get the type in one column that had to be cut and pasted to make the pages. Then I learned the codes to set fonts and margins, etc and modemed files to the typesetter. Would get the pages with the columns of type set with the pages all layed out so all that was needed was putting in the pictures. Was writing a program to do WYSIWYG on the AppleII when I realized the Mac did WYSIWYG right out of the box and saved printer files that could be sent to the typesetter. Sold the AppleII got a Mac and have been using them ever since. At that time a PC system to do WYSIWIG typesetting costed $25,000 dollars.

In the late 80s had an Amiga. They did WYSI as well. Ray tracing could be done if you had enough time. The only issue was SCSI drives were finicky with the SCSI on the machine.

[RKDinOKC]

in 87 got a full page display that worked thru the SCSI connector. One of the first external displays made for the Mac they made.

Saved pagemaker files as postscript which printed on a local company's linotype typesetter.

In 76 had an account on schools IBM mainframe. 3 students in our school had accounts. Used a phone coupled typewriter terminal and wrote basic programs. No screen, just 14" wide perforated paper.

Remember when the Amiga came out. It was like the mac with colors, but not much software.

[RKDinOKC]

Saw a youtube video of the guys that most recently broke the gumball record averaging 104mph.

Reminds me of driving my 928GT to my sisters in Rolla MO when I was younger. It is exactly 400 miles door to door. It was a 4th of July weekend so there was traffic. Stopped for gas and did a golden arches drive thru for a burger. Never passed a car going more than 10mph faster than they were. Just went fast in the gaps between bunches of cars. Averaged 100mph both going and returning including stops. Guess I was going gumball speeds!

[flipper35]

Originally Posted by RKDinOKC

in 87 got a full page display that worked thru the SCSI connector. One of the first external displays made for the Mac they made.

Saved pagemaker files as postscript which printed on a local company's linotype typesetter.

In 76 had an account on schools IBM mainframe. 3 students in our school had accounts. Used a phone coupled typewriter terminal and wrote basic programs. No screen, just 14" wide perforated paper.

Remember when the Amiga came out. It was like the mac with colors, but not much software.

There was a ton of software out there, but the marketing sucked. Then the Toaster came out and it got real expensive. Lots of MIDI, productivity, graphics and productivity out there. I used Pagemaker (Aldus?), Sculpt 3D and a bunch of flight sim stuff. Some digitizing also. Had a VCR with a digital still that worked great with the digitizer.

[Porsche-poor]

Originally Posted by flipper35

I had two years to go but had already been using and programming computers for a few years by then. Had to teach our computer teacher to teach us. Our shop teacher had a IIe that he thought was awesome but got confused when I asked about caps and lower and special characters. In 1984 our team (1 of three from our school) got second in the state programming competition. I wrote two of the three programs we had to write. Those were the simple days.

My sophomore year I took a IIe class is basic. We has an exchange student who kept getting props from the teacher for using variables to spell words from his country. He finally let the rest of us in on his little gag. They were Finish cuss words.

[GH85Carrera]

I stared using Ventura Publisher on that 4.77 Mhz computer with a green text, and black background. I laid out the local PCA newsletter, and even did two newsletters for other people for money. It was painful slow, and I just had a black box for the photos and handed the printer a photo with a number for each photo and he did halftones. Ventura Publisher was a WYSISWYG after it rendered the display. It was built by Xerox back when they invented the mouse. It came out in 1987.

I printed them on my HP laserjet II that printed 300 DPI, and 8 pages a minute. That printer was HUGE. I finally got a 386 and a color monitor and 256 colors and a 14,400 Modem that was screaming fast or so I thought.

With the paid for newsletters I paid for the laser printer, and even made a few bucks.

https://winworldpc.com/product/ventura-publisher/11

[RKDinOKC]

At one point I got a Mac 6400 VEE (Video Editing Edition)
It was a small tower with video card that imported and exported S video with software to digitize and edit video.
That was cool for the time, but not the coolest.
It had a poster in the top of the box that showed how to plug everything in.
Then when you turned it on, this girl walked out on the screen and explained how to use the keybord, mouse, menu options, Everything including all the software.
Not only did she tell you, she would point at what to click, and it would be highlighted.
If you went to help, she would pop up and explain stuff.
Did not need it myself, but wish they had something like that now for people like brother bob.

[GH85Carrera]

Your brother Bob would think it was the extraterrestrials talking to him.

Win 10 has some talking helper as you set it up from scratch. I guess a total novice would think it is useful. I don't even have speakers on my new computer as yet. Part of the pain is installing from fresh all the different programs I use. I have custom templates, and data tables or setting for each program.

I don't want to try a migration. Too many old programs I don't use often, or stuff that was installed, and removed. I don't want any flotsam and jetsam of a system that has been used since 2013 and started life as Windows 7.

The new Photoshop version 20 comes up in a totally new layout. I have to go and select Photography template to get it back to something I recognize. I am sure I can find the way to get it to stay in that layout.

I have been using Quicken since 1989, and I have my checkbook register going back that far. I am still running Version 2017 because I have upgrading every single year. Now it is just a one year or two year subscription, like Photoshop went to.

Once I get a few more programs moved, I will gut and pull the high dollar video card from it, and put it in the new beast, and put the beast on the floor in its new place.

[Porsche-poor]

morning all. New starter in the RDX and its back to running like it should.

[RKDinOKC]

When I upgrade my Mac it migrates whatever programs and settings that are installed. I do have go remove the canned programs that come on the new box, but that's it. I'd be lost if i had to re-install and re-enter all my programs and licenses.

[GH85Carrera]

The old computer is going to become a 40TB RAID. I will stick 5 - 10 TB drives in it, and set it up as a RAID5. It will have a pair of 1 TB drives in it for the boot drive. It will all go to my partners home office.

I was just talking to him. They are in the town of Kimberly, South Africa. He said a Filet is 10 bucks, and a gin and tonic is 3 bucks. So lots of good food. The old diamond mine is right next door. It is shut down now, so just a big pit full of water. They took a tour and it was 5 bucks. No one was there to explain anything, you walk out to a overlook, and look into the pit, and that is it.
He said he would be mad if it cost more than 5 bucks for the tour.

They are providing so much data to the client the client is overwhelmed trying to transfer it all, and process it. Not our problem. We told them they need a FAST internet connection, and FAST data processing to make it work.

[RKDinOKC]

So, Back in the early 80's got a 78 GMC Jimmy (just like a Chevy Blazer) that had a 250 inline 6cyl. Got some Slick 50 from my brother. This was when it was not available at parts stores. Did an oil change, all but the last quart. Started it up and poured in the Slick 50. Sitting there idling the idle speed increased within a few minutes so much I had to adjust it lower on the carb. Then drove the Jimmy around for 45 minutes like the instructions said. Thought it was cool that it reduced the friction so much it required re-adjusting the idle. Then didn't really think about it.

My parents would use my Jimmy to drive 70 miles to a dairy and get 1000lbs of cheddar cheese, a distribute it to friends and co-workers. It was like a co-op thing. It was good cheese and much cheaper picked directly from the dairy.

The next trip I asked them to stop and get the oil changed because it was time, I didn't have time, and it needed changing before hauling 1000lbs. They stopped on the way out of town at a Jiffy Lube. Mom noticed they put in the wrong weight. They drained it again and put the right weight in. Then they went on their cheese run.

I swapped cars, picking up my Jimmy on the way to a night class after work. Dad told me it kinda started clattering when they go close to home. Left because I just had time to make it to class. Drove the 11 miles to class and in the last 2 miles it started clattering. Parking for class I quickly checked the oil and the dipstick was bone dry. Fretted thru class knowing my parents had just totalled the motor on my Jimmy.

A girl in class overhead me and told me she had picked up a couple of cases of oil on sale and they were in her car. Ended up buying 7 quarts from her to top it off. That meant even the oil filter was dry. Drove it home with no issues. In fact drove it for another year with no issues when I traded it for my 914.

6 years later I sold the 914 and got another Jimmy. Notice they had Slick 50 at an auto parts store. Picked up a quart and did the treatment on the Jimmy. Noticed the Slick 50 looked different as I poured it in and the idle didn't change at all. So was very disappointed and figured they had changed the formula.

Now for the interesting bit. Found a product called Xcelplus. The guy that invented Slick 50 said he sold the name, but not the formula. So, Slick 50 had been changed! Said it was now available as Xcelplus. Wonder if it is really the same as that original Slick 50?

[Jim Richards]

More rain fall here, but as always, we’ll save some to ship you fellas in OK. Stand by...

[RKDinOKC]

Found they are selling Xcelplus in USA as Lubrilon. lubrilon.com

Anyone heard of this stuff?

I would say it is snake oil except for the experience I had in the early 80's with Slick 50. Emailed them and they say the formula changed a little to be compatible with modern oils, but is essentially the same stuff. They are now claiming a 6% increase in gas mileage due to reduced friction.

[Jim Richards]

Are we back to talking about nipple lube?

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

Are we back to talking about nipple lube?

I didn't know we ever stopped!

I spent time reprocessing a part of a project that was done at my partner's house on the fastest machine has has. A i8 with 64 gig of RAM. It took it over 28 hours. My new machine did the exact same thing in 11 hours. So well under 1/2 the time. Not a big deal if you are talking minutes, but major savings on multi day processing projects.

While processing it never used more than 140 Gig of RAM and had lots to spare. On the other machine it slowed down a lot having to use virtual memory from the hard drive.

The CPU was pegged at 100% usage for a lot of the time. It got up to 70 degrees C under load, but not too hot.

[GH85Carrera]

My mean old greedy boss has me working on Saturday. Of course the fact that the job will net us a large hunk of dough is part of his greedy money grubbing capitalist pig motivation. Work most of Friday night, and most of the weekend.

[RKDinOKC]

Will say that pouring lube in a running motor and the idle increases enough that you have to set the idle lower on the carb is pretty impressive. That was before my parents drove my truck 140 miles with no oil with no ill effects.

Remember a computer taking 8 hours to add a small black border to a 2400 x 3600 pixel image with photoshop. The processor was a whole 25 mhz and it had 8 meg of memory and did virtual memory using the hard drive too.