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while i am not a professional mechanic, i have some experience with the 944: i've owned two, and a 924, and worked on a couple other 944's. i've sorted a few electrical problems on them, to say the least.

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The initial getting it started problems appear to be with the engine management. The fuel pump will cut on if you jump it but, even after changing the DME relay and the sensors it will not cut on when you try to start it. Hubs turned it over by hand(which is good because it's not locked up obviously) but we have no fuel, no spark etc.
does the tach bounce when you the engine is turning over via the starter? if you don't know, you need to find out.

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I'm sure hubby has yanked the fusebox and fixed the potential water damage, and done all of the power and ground pin tests at the DME, right?
have you tried swapping the DME with a known good one?

actually, the 924S is a reskinned early 944. the 944 shares few of the electrical and drivetrain components of the 924. the 924S came out in 1987, using old interior and body panels that porsche had laying around, but used the 944 drivetrain and electrical.

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Old 02-07-2013, 08:43 AM
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You guys underestimate me a tad.....The tach did not bounce so I changed the speed sensor and it bounced..the DME was replaced.
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Rick. First of all, smile!
Second, you'd look great in a suit that was tailored for you.
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You guys underestimate me a tad.....The tach did not bounce so I changed the speed sensor and it bounced..the DME was replaced.
nope, just trying to diagnose. did you change the fuel pump relay (it has its own, besides the DME relay) and the fuel pump fuse?

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I feel like a cheap pusher.
very david byrnes/talking heads. i do like the suit.
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one more thing: i think this problem can even be the ignition switch itself... especially if the fuel pump comes on when jumpered and there is no spark.
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hmm. ok. I'll look into this stuff when it's in front of me.
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even if the fuse looks good, i'd replace it. in fact, if you haven't replaced ALL the fuses, i'd do so. the fuses in the early 944's are PITA, for sure. my first 944 was an '83.
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this is a very good site, also:

Clark's Garage Home Page

specifically, the 'garage shop manual'
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thanks.
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okay, i am probably FOS re. the fuel pump relay:

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one other thing that happens is that the female pins at the DME relay get corroded or bent out of contact due to people jumpering them. have you tried jumpering the DME relay socket?
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dont think so.
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"On the panel where the relay was removed (early or late model), jumper terminals 30 and 87b. The fuel pump should start......If you aren't sure which terminals are the correct ones, refer to the terminal number labels on the bottom of the relay."

if you do this and the pump runs, either the ignition switch is bad or something is wrong from the DME to the relay, or the new relay you have is bad (not likely).
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Rick you either need to put weight on or get a thinner suit, man you look slim, oh wait..... you are!!

Only jealous, have never been accused to being thin, or slim, sigh.....

But the clean shaven and tidy look , looking good.
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Only jealous, have never been accused to being thin, or slim, sigh.....
I have and its infuriating because im not.
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Well, had a busy yesterday, took me so long to catch up on the thread it logged me off!

I have different posts per page than default, so when I clicked to go to the next page, the logged off page # was from over a year ago. I got this spooky feeling that I'd read it before, went on to next page, and knew I'd read it before, looked at post date....face smack.

As for J keeping the '44 engine, let me paraphrase from Herbie. "Some cars come from the factory with that little bit extra".

The engine in my '84, I could see swapping it out to something else. My '86 on the other hand, has that "little bit extra". I've still got some more work to do on the car, but I'd like to get it on a dyno. Car snaps like no other 8V NA I've driven. If you can get it running with mostly an investment in time, by all means do so.


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Bahahaha! Made me laugh. I'd go nuts without something to fiddle with a few times a week.
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Porsche 944

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In victorian times the rules for clothing were relaxed some to be more comfortable. That is the basic 3 piece suit of today.
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