Starbucks & Guns

[island911]

Originally Posted by speedracing944

Something is seriously wrong in many parts of the United States. I totally agree with the above quote.

Speedy

so you say that you're not a 98_lb woman?

That is, an 800_lb gorilla has an easy time feeling relatively secure.


. . . unless he hears gunfire in the forest.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by speedracing944

Something is seriously wrong in many parts of the United States. I totally agree with the above quote.

Speedy

Show me one nation in the history of mankind that did not require arms to secure itself and it's population.

I'll be waiting.

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by speedracing944

Something is seriously wrong in many parts of the United States.

The parts of the US that ignore the Constitution tend to be the parts with the most crime, both on the part of the state and the everyday criminals.

[dd74]

Guns today, the caffeine locker tomorrow.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by HHI944

Baristas with berettas. They should start a program under that name to encourage their good, law-abiding employees to carry at work.

Sounds like a porno. Or a bad action flick. Or maybe a really great action porno.

[varmint]

so, i can pack a gun. but not a cigarette.

[island911]

I think that you can have either, but they generally frown upon lighting-up either one.

[HardDrive]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

"If you have to live in a place, where you feel you have to be armed...something is seriously wrong," said Jill Lucas, anti-gun protester.

I'm not anti gun, but I strongly agree with that statement. I'd move to another neighborhood.

Good thinking. Because bad things only happen in bad neighborhoods.

[red-beard]

You can pack either. I think it would be the smoking/shooting part people for which should object.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

Good thinking. Because bad things only happen in bad neighborhoods.

exactly....

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by varmint

so, i can pack a gun. but not a cigarette.

Your gun has no effect on me as a patron, but your cigarette does.

[Geronimo '74]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

People are just so naive.

With all due respect Snipe, but that is a bit narrowminded.
Over here, gunlaws are a lot stricter then in the US.
I am not anti gun, I think they're pretty cool, but I do not own one, have never needed one so far. (Maybe I'll get one in the future, I hear HK P7 is good... )
I am sure situations can occur that I wish I had one. But I still feel perfectly safe when I go out. Mind you there are cities, regions where you do not want to be hanging around, unsafe. But even with a gun I would not visit those places.
I doubt if a gun would make me feel safe.
There just is a big cultural, historical difference between our countries.
But that does not mean we are naive.

One questions springs to mind when I hear and read on this BBS how a lot of folks believe that they need a gun to be safe from harm. What do you do when you go on vacation? Obviously, you are not taking any guns on the plane when you go, let's say, to Europe.
Do you gun owners feel unsafe then?? Kinda takes the fun out of the holiday, not?

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

Your gun has no effect on me as a patron, but your cigarette does.

What if the cigarette isn't lit? This would be the closest comparison.

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by red-beard

What if the cigarette isn't lit? This would be the closest comparison.

No lit...no problemo.

[Brando]

Its good for Starbucks to defer to the law. Isn't what laws are for? -- So a company can remain neutral and not politicize?

Brady Bunch and the Helmke flock of sheeple cry bloody murder because they won't bar patrons who abide by said laws. Those that exercise said rights or support rights & liberties in general take their business there.

Hmmm... cater to the 200-300 who detest liberty, or respect the law and garner hundreds of thousands of other customers?... Whats the right move for a biz?

[legion]

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74

With all due respect Snipe, but that is a bit narrowminded.
Over here, gunlaws are a lot stricter then in the US.
I am not anti gun, I think they're pretty cool, but I do not own one, have never needed one so far. (Maybe I'll get one in the future, I hear HK P7 is good... )
I am sure situations can occur that I wish I had one. But I still feel perfectly safe when I go out. Mind you there are cities, regions where you do not want to be hanging around, unsafe. But even with a gun I would not visit those places.
I doubt if a gun would make me feel safe.
There just is a big cultural, historical difference between our countries.
But that does not mean we are naive.

This is an interesting topic that has deep roots in each country's respective culture. I think part of the problem with Europe right now is that it is being flooded with people who have no respect for the laws, culture, or traditions. While in the past, there was no need for guns because the laws were universally respected, that is no longer the case. Many imigrants have no interest in an ordered society, and instead see vast numbers of helpless victims to take advantage of.

But in summary, being completely gunless works. So does being armed to the teeth. Both don't work too. It depends a lot of the culture. Me? I'd prefer to have the ability to save myself.

[Geronimo '74]

Originally Posted by legion

I think part of the problem with Europe right now is that it is being flooded with people who have no respect for the laws, culture, or traditions. While in the past, there was no need for guns because the laws were universally respected, that is no longer the case. Many imigrants have no interest in an ordered society, and instead see vast numbers of helpless victims to take advantage of.

.

That, my dear Sir, is sadly the truth...

Good thing is, that when I do decide to buy a gun, I know where to come for advice!

[flatbutt]

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One questions springs to mind when I hear and read on this BBS how a lot of folks believe that they need a gun to be safe from harm. ................snippedQUOTE]

no sir, not exactly. I don't think that way. And many non-gun owners like to use that thought in order to ridicule us that do own guns. I do not own weapons because I live in fear. I own them because that is my way of being as prepared as possible for whatever may come my way. It's the same reason I keep cash in savings, just in case I need it.

Owning weapons allows one to mount a defense when necessary. It doesn't guarantee that I 'll escape unharmed but it does guarantee that a perpetrator will be faced with equal lethality. Since most perps are cowards they prefer unarmed victims.

And I fervently hope I'll never need to use a weapon against anyone.

[island911]

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74

...

One questions springs to mind when I hear and read on this BBS how a lot of folks believe that they need a gun to be safe from harm. What do you do when you go on vacation? Obviously, you are not taking any guns on the plane when you go, let's say, to Europe.
Do you gun owners feel unsafe then?? Kinda takes the fun out of the holiday, not?

I remember my first trip to Dallas Texas; where MANY people carry firearms. It was a good feeling, knowing that so many regular people were packing. A very polite place. Much more polite than a typical Liberal US city, where pushiness seems to be the norm.

[dd74]

As is, I'm not worried. Not after the night in a cigar shop where the owner -- for kicks -- pulled out a twelve-gauge, chambered a round and pointed it at a few fun-loving smokers. Anything else is decaf to me.