Navy Seals and Special Forces

[Rikao4]

Austrian Special Forces guy and his partner..
jump is from 10K feet..

Rika

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by Rikao4

Austrian Special Forces guy and his partner..
jump is from 10K feet..

Rika

Looks like fun!

[DARISC]

Originally Posted by LubeMaster77

In my book, firing a load at a rail welding choco-bunny qualifies one for specops in the civil sense!

Snipes may be many things but his antics and sexual misgivings are the stuff of folly and mirth. I for one enjoy those 'tails'.

I'll buy that!

[ODDJOB UNO]

that damn dawg better get some SNAU-SAGES! that dawg fer SURE PEES IN THE TALL GRASS!



now think about what i said earlier about the AVERAGE USGI COMBAT LOADOUT weighing 120# PLUS!


i carried 70# down into the grande canon(grand canyon) last time, and it liked to have KICKED MY AZZ SIDEWAYS!


and im in above average shape, not a superman like any special forces dude. so think real hard what kind of guy humps 120# PLUS all day and ALL NIGHT over hill and dale up and down freeking afghan mtns. holy ned!

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by LubeMaster77

In my book, firing a load at a rail welding choco-bunny qualifies one for specops in the civil sense!

Snipes may be many things but his antics and sexual misgivings are the stuff of folly and mirth. I for one enjoy those 'tails'.

What can i say, i'm an entertainer.

[dondarnell]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

DD is on a roll and when that happens facts rarely get in the way. Listen to "snapper" and you will hear the truth.

Yea, you don't know jack. The only jump school in the armed forces is the Army jump school at Fort Benning GA. All seals are trained there, by the the airborne. I personally trained, and trained with seals both at the MOUT city in Berlin, and cold weather school at Malga Coe Italy. My unit was the 4/325 ABCT, and we were not a Ranger unit but we had the highest concentration of Ranger tabbed officers and NCO's outside the Ranger Bats. The unit was, at the time often referred to as the 4th Ranger Bat. Seals regulary went through these and other schools, such as pathfinder, jungle warfare, etc. and probably other Amy schools as well. Think about it for a minute, the frickin Navy doesn't run schools of this nature - the limited number of seals would prohibit it. The reverse is not true, never heard of Army being trained by the Navy.

[ZLP]

Originally Posted by dondarnell

Yea, you don't know jack. The only jump school in the armed forces is the Army jump school at Fort Benning GA. All seals are trained there, by the the airborne. I personally trained, and trained with seals both at the MOUT city in Berlin, and cold weather school at Malga Coe Italy. My unit was the 4/325 ABCT, and we were not a Ranger unit but we had the highest concentration of Ranger tabbed officers and NCO's outside the Ranger Bats. The unit was, at the time often referred to as the 4th Ranger Bat. Seals regulary went through these and other schools, such as pathfinder, jungle warfare, etc. and probably other Amy schools as well. Think about it for a minute, the frickin Navy doesn't run schools of this nature - the limited number of seals would prohibit it. The reverse is not true, never heard of Army being trained by the Navy.

You>SEALs, congrats

[DARISC]

I think most people assume SEAL stems from seal, the mammal. Not an illogical assumption, considering most people picture SEALS in the water and don't know that SEAL is the acronym for SEa Air and Land.

That's not fortuitous, I'm certain, because I have inside info that when they were first formed they were going to be called SALs, for Sea Air and Land.

But the Navy thought long and and hard about that and capitalized the 'e' in sea because otherwise most people would think SALs are a bunch of tough Italians with snorkels.

At first this decision was met with great consternation by the Italian community, which at the time actually were very tough, and no Italian would become a SEAL.

But the fact was that most Italians then didn't have a natural affinity for water anyway except a few of them who had recently emigrated to the U.S. from Naples, where they have a bay.

There were, of course, exceptions wherein the Navy was able to entice some Italians to become SEALs with the promise that they could mess cook and make pizzas.

This slowly changed over the years as more and more Italians learned to swim and learned that SEALs, being highly pampered in some respects, had 7/27 access to pizza.

Today there are as many Italian SEALS as there are of any ethnic group, with the exception of Latvians, about which issue the Navy remains silent.

To this day, more pizzas are eaten by SEALs than by any other group and, generally, SEALs love of pizza remains even after leaving the service or retiring.

Some, however, never want to even hear the word pizza again and to offer one of those SEALs a slice is like a pie in the face, so you better watch out.

It is important to know also that no pizza hating SEAL who has either left or retired from the service is Italian, so there is some value in ethnically profiling them when considering offering them a pie.

I'm sure that there are those who will say that this is a load of SEAL crap. But it's not and they would also not believe that I had a buddy who was Navy intel who, when stationed in Antarctica, broke his leg playing softball on the ice when he slipped on penguin shyte. He, however, wasn't a SEAL (I'm not sure if there are any SEALs in Antarctica).

[dondarnell]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

DD is on a roll and when that happens facts rarely get in the way. Listen to "snapper" and you will hear the truth.

Yea, you don't know jack. Seals attend Army schools on regular basis. When was in 4/325 ABCT in Vicenza, Italy we trained and trained with seals at cold weather school in Malga Coe, and MOUT training in Berlin. Also saw seals in Panama for jungle warfare school, Benning for jump school, and pathfinder school. I am not aware of Army SF, Rangers!, or airborne training with the Navy.

[DavidI]

There are many, many badass military men serving our country. SEALS, Delta, Force Recon to name a few. I was in a Marine Corps ANGLICO unit, and there were some baaaad guys in the unit. I was average in a unit of tough guys. Most were very humble, calm, and audacious when the time was right.

My son, 15 years old, wants to be a MARSOC Marine. I am doing my best to lead him toward the officer ranks instead of enliisted.

I am in awe of some of those badasses, and damn proud they are serving on our side!

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by dondarnell

Yea, you don't know jack. Seals attend Army schools on regular basis. When was in 4/325 ABCT in Vicenza, Italy we trained and trained with seals at cold weather school in Malga Coe, and MOUT training in Berlin. Also saw seals in Panama for jungle warfare school, Benning for jump school, and pathfinder school. I am not aware of Army SF, Rangers!, or airborne training with the Navy.

What are you trying to say?

[ZLP]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

What are you trying to say?

I'm not sure even he knows.

[peppy]

Seal Team 6 used to train some at Fort Pickett in Va. They didn't even look like they where in the service, long hair, pony tails, earrings, and beards.

Never really heard much about them, but there where a lot of "bigfoot" sightings around the times they where training.

[dondarnell]

Originally Posted by m21sniper

Excuse?

The 75th Ranger Rgt falls under the SOCOM command structure, they are this nation's most elite, highly trained light infantry force. Rangers being SPECOPS forces has zero to do with the Navy SEALs, or who trains SEALs, something i never even adressed (SEALs are trained by the USN at BUDS).

So again....huh?

Try to follow along. Tell us again how the Army has zero to do the training of seals.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by dondarnell

Yea, you don't know jack. The only jump school in the armed forces is the Army jump school at Fort Benning GA. All seals are trained there, by the the airborne. I personally trained, and trained with seals both at the MOUT city in Berlin, and cold weather school at Malga Coe Italy. My unit was the 4/325 ABCT, and we were not a Ranger unit but we had the highest concentration of Ranger tabbed officers and NCO's outside the Ranger Bats. The unit was, at the time often referred to as the 4th Ranger Bat. Seals regulary went through these and other schools, such as pathfinder, jungle warfare, etc. and probably other Amy schools as well. Think about it for a minute, the frickin Navy doesn't run schools of this nature - the limited number of seals would prohibit it. The reverse is not true, never heard of Army being trained by the Navy.

It's funny you should say this. I'm not an expert in military matters by any stretch but I have a good friend, (grew up around the corner from each other), who was a Navy SEAL dive instructor. What little he has told me about his military career includes lots of extended postings on Army and Coast Guard bases teaching their divers + training divers for our foreign allies. The SEAL team are the best divers in the world, all other services take their advanced training from them, I think.

He has been out of the Navy for several years but recently took a job at Fort Campbell as a civilian contractor teaching helicopter dunk survival to Army helicopter pilots in their state-of-the-art facility. I spoke to him Thurs. am, he had the day off because Obama was visiting the base and all non-essential personnel got the day off. As I'm sure you know, Ft. Campbell is one of the places where members of the various elite forces train together although it is my understanding that much of what goes on in that area is classified. (Not publicly described/disclosed). It is of course the home of the 101st AB.

Technically speaking, he is no longer Navy training Army but there in one reason and one reason only that he has that job. FWIW, my cousin is an Army helicopter pilot serving in the ME, flying SEALS, (and others), on missions.

[DARISC]

Originally Posted by speeder

...Coast Guard bases...

I wonder how many people know that there are SEALS in two branches of our armed forces, the Coast Guard being the second branch.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by DARISC

I wonder how many people know that there are SEALS in two branches of our armed forces, the Coast Guard being the second branch.

Not exactly, (from what I understand). In order to become a Navy SEAL, applicants may be in the Navy or Coast Guard. If they pass through the various gauntlets and actually become a SEAL team member, they are then in the USN.

[DARISC]

Originally Posted by speeder

Not exactly...

Sounds logical to me. I guess 'Navy' SEAL is redundant.

[m21sniper]

Originally Posted by dondarnell

Try to follow along. Tell us again how the Army has zero to do the training of seals.

Maybe it's you that should follow along troop. No one ever said that was the case. What i said was that the point i was making earlier had nothing to do with SEALs. All US SPECOPS cross-train and share many common schools, and i never intended to dispute (or even comment on) that. Marines also go to a lot of US Army schools as well.

You fell out of airplanes too many times i think. You know what they say. Only 2 things fall out of airplanes.

You know what else they say. If you weren't mech, you weren't ****!

[RWebb]

ok, I have a question related to "falling" out of airplanes:

which is crazier, a guy who jumps out of a perfectly good aircraft and into a raging forest fire?

or a guy who jumps out of a perfectly good aircraft and into a place where people are shooting at you?