Now, let's compare the 911 of old with the 911 of today...clean lines & looks wise.

Alas, Thomas Wolfe was right...ya can't go home again. Mandated safety features alone dictate that Ford cannot remake the '66 Fastback and Porsche can't make the early 911S...

Perhaps you could provide a thread of a Porsche enthusiast extolling the virtues of the 997 on a Mustang forum.

Maybe there is some weirdo over there who moved up from a Mustang to a 997 and can't shut-up about it. :D:D:D

for the 6000th time, this is the off topic section of a porsche forum. ....not the on-topic section of a porsche forum.

let's take our threads about custom designed children's clothing to a clothing forum, not a porsche forum. ...or picture threads of stuff you eat for dinner. those should clearly be on a culinary forum.

the mustang is a quasi- neat car, and i don't mind talking about it. they're obviously no slouch, look ok, sound great, etc. someone mentioned that paul is so insecure about his mustang that he has to post about it. are we so insecure that we have to bash it?

oh good lord man, take a deeeeep breath and lighten up. really. then go see post 38. :rolleyes:

Liberals shaun and speeder have been "hating" ol' conservative pwd here since before there was a parf, before he bought a Mustang...nothing really new. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...ys/grenade.gif

such a victim, oh my. pull up your big girl pants Paul, no one hates you. and you aren't a conservative. and I'm not a liberal. oy vey.

I rest my case...:rolleyes:

oh you poor thing, you. :D

Poor? Oh hell no...just the opposite. And enjoying a Mustang...much to your chagrin.

Maybe I should advertise Mustang T shirts here?

Dig the symbolism...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1305568660.jpg

I agree, but American's are much bigger (fatter) than in 1964. The sport/sporty cars (including the Mustang, 911, Boxster and Miata MX-5) will continue to grow as we as a nation become more obese.

Here you go Paul. The Boss 302 Laguna Seca is 6th.

Lap times (48)

Pos Make / Model Time Speed (km/h) Year Power (hp) / Weight (kg) Driven by
1. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 1:33.92 138 '08 600 / 1536 Chris Winkler
2. Devon GTX 1:35.08 136 0 659 / 0 DMW
3. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 1:35.80 135 '08 647 / 1530 Motortrend
4. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Carbon 1:37.40 133 '11 512 / 1394 motortrend
5. Porsche 997 Turbo facelift 1:37.80 133 '09 500 / 1570 C&D
6. Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS 1:39.50 130 '12 446 / 1573 Road&Track
7. Porsche 997 GT3 1:39.52 130 '06 415 / 1395 Motortrend
8. Porsche 997 Turbo 1:39.89 130 '06 480 / 1585 Timed by Edmunds.com
9. Porsche 997 Turbo S 1:40.11 130 '10 530 / 1585 road&track
10. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI 1:40.20 129 '09 525 / 1620 road&track
11. Ford Mustang Boss 302 1:40.21 129 '11 450 / 1650 Motor Trend
12. Nissan GT-R 1:40.45 129 '08 479 / 1740 Motor Trend
13. Mercedes SLS AMG 1:40.74 129 '10 571 / 1620 Bern Schneider
14. Audi R8 4.2 FSI quattro 1:40.75 129 '06 420 / 1560 Motor Trend
15. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1:40.90 129 '05 513 / 1437 Motor Trend
16. BMW M3 (E92) 1:42.96 126 '07 420 / 1619 Motor Trend
17. Porsche Cayman S(facelift) PDK 1:43.00 126 '08 320 / 1375 Motor Trend
18. Aston Martin V12 Vantage 1:43.04 126 '09 517 / 1680 road&track
19. Cadillac CTS-V 1:43.90 125 '09 564 / 1955 Motortrend
20. Shelby GT500 1:44.30 124 '10 547 / 1767 Motortrend
21. Shelby GT500 1:44.72 124 '06 507 / 1807 Motor Trend
22. Shelby Mustang Cobra GT500KR 1:44.72 124 '08 540 / 1773 Motortrend
23. Porsche 997 Carrera (2008 facelift) 1:45.00 123 '08 345 / 1415 Car and Driver
24. Jaguar XFR 1:45.37 123 '09 510 / 1960 Motortrend
25. Chevrolet Camaro SS 2010 1:45.70 123 '10 432 / 1750 Motor Trend
26. Lotus Exige 240R 1:45.82 123 '05 247 / 941 Motortrend
27. Toyota Supra RZ 1:45.87 122 '94 284 / 1640 Kurosawa Motoharu
28. BMW 135i Coupe (E82) 1:46.00 122 '07 306 / 1485 Motortrend
29. Nissan Nismo 370Z 1:46.50 122 '09 355 / 1500 Motortrend
30. Porsche Cayman S 1:47.58 121 '05 295 / 1406 Motortrend
31. Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X MR 1:47.71 120 '08 295 / 1585 MotorTrend
32. Chevrolet Cobalt SS/TC 1:47.75 120 '08 260 / 1352 Motor Trend
33. Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX 1:47.93 120 '05 290 / 1482 Motortrend
34. BMW 335i Coupe 1:49.04 119 '06 306 / 1610 Motortrend
35. Porsche 997 Carrera S 1:50.00 118 '04 355 / 1420 Motortrend
36. Mazda 3 MPS 1:50.38 117 '06 260 / 1485 Motortrend
37. Mazda RX-8 1:50.42 117 '02 231 / 1400 Motor Trend
38. Honda S2000 1:50.74 117 '99 239 / 1260 Motortrend
39. Mini Mini Cooper S Works GP Kit 1:51.73 116 '06 218 / 1180 Motortrend
40. Mini Cooper S (Mk II) 1:51.98 116 '06 174 / 1206 Motortrend
41. Mazda MX-5 Grand Touring 1:52.20 116 '09 160 / 1165 Motortrend
42. Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 (405hp) 1:53.73 w 114 '02 411 / 1414 Steve Millen
43. Porsche 996 Carrera 320hp 1:54.22 w 114 '01 320 / 1345 Steve Millen
44. Acura NSX 1:54.74 w 113 '04 290 / 1424 Steve Millen
45. Honda Civic SI 1:54.99 113 '06 197 / 1330 Motortrend
46. Honda NSX 1:57.00 111 '04 280 / 1330 Jeremy Clarkson
47. Chevrolet Camaro Z28 ´82 2:05.80 103 '82 193 / 0 Motortrend
48. Ford Mustang GT 2:09.90 100 '82 159 / 1483 Motortrend

Also, I pulled the 911, Dr. Jekyll, out of the garage for a side by side comparison. The Boss is a little chubby.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1305584480.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1305584527.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1305584563.jpg

Chubby or not, this Ford runs in some pretty fast company, eh? :D

I had to look this one up, new to me.

Devon GTX
Devon GTX Sets One-Lap Record at Laguna Seca picture: 314249 - Top Speed
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/jpg...s-one-l-3w.jpg

Put a fork in this topic, it's done! :D

Not quite the message I had in mind, Dave....

I like the color and sedate look of your car but would change out the rims. Nothing too dramatic...but what you have mounted now don't work. I'm thinking polished lip with some mix polish/paint center...

Stock 18X8.5" "Bullitt" Wheels. I've been thinking of going to these classic look torque thrust in 9.5" with close to stock offset. Actually these stock wheels are a polished lip, but for some reason doesn't show well in the photo.

Wheelsforless - Product Catalog - Search Result Page

But then, if I move on up to a 5.0, I may not want to put the $ into the Bullitt...;)

A 2002 996 only ran a 1:54.22 :( Damn, and that's an upgraded version of my 2000 996. I suddenly feel very SLOOOWWWWW. ;)

Let's see, that Boss 302 Laguna Seca edition did it in 1:39.50...15 seconds a lap faster than my jalopy.