And that 1:54 was with Steve Millen at the wheel. Well heck, it would take the Mustang 8-10 laps to catch ya twice, right? Plus, you have a higher status car. Ask anybody. :)

I like the wheels

;)

I goofed...that was with Steve Millen driving...

Did you see the "w" after the time?

That means the track was wet.

The 996 beat the NSX that ran in the wet. C'mon, man.

Alright. I feel a little better now. :):)

Gotta admit I missed it too...so, care to guess at a 996 time in the dry?

#35, the Carrera S 997 pulled a 1:50...that seems to be dry.

That is dry according to the list but for some reason that one stands out as off... I mean, I have hustled both a 997 (4S) and a newer 335i... there is absolutely no way that the 335 could touch any 997S, 4 or not, when pushed.

Unless you actually plan on tracking the car (I do mine, but 99% of people will never) then it's really all about the feeling you get when you A) look at the car and B) act like a 16 year old in it.

When I look at a car for sale, I like to ask myself "is this a car that 16 year old me would have wanted?".

Perfect description on buying a new car.

Actually, plenty of 16 year olds would want a new Mustang with some stripes.

Bingo! The graphics are what turns me OFF about the Boss 302 Mustang. The mechanicals another story.

Now toying with the idea of a poor man's Boss...a 5.0 GT with 3:73 & Brembos...then add Ford Racing suspension bits, a Boss intake, some other mods, and you'd be close..without the graphics that look like they were drawn by a 16 year old kid during study hall. I've posted my opinion on the Boss graphics on Mustang boards...get more in agreement than opposed.

So Mike, you pick the Porsche on that list that you feel would be close to a 996's dry time...I've tried, and you don't like it?

Also, upon further contemplation of the lap times posted, I start to wonder not only about the wet versus dry scenario, which is usually huge, but also the rather substantial effect of R compound "track" tires versus the normal non R compound street tires when conditions are dry. Everything else being equal, R comps are good for between 2 to 5 seconds per lap, depending on the track. Only the top few cars on that list had R compound rubber, as installed by the factory. From what I recall, most of those top few cars are equipped with Michelin Pilots Sport Cup tires or Pirelli Corsa Competition tires (the Boss 302 Laguna Seca has these). So, we factor in wet conditions, and add to that a few cars which are not only running in dry conditions, but are running track biased tires.

With all of that said, however, There's no question that the Boss 302 Laguna Seca would still significantly better a 996's or 997's track time, even with identical tires and running on the same day with the same driver. That Mustang was built for a purpose (track work) and has a significantly higher power and torque to weight ratio than a 996 or 997. Put a 2012 GT3RS onto that track on the same day with the same driver and I'm guessing that the Boss 302 Laguna Seca edition would suddenly have company - although for a hell of a lot more money, of course.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, even though I'm not especially enamored of the car in general (although I do like it), it IS a hell of a car, especially for the money. Too bad there are so few actually being produced and sold.

Well Scott, I'd say that's a fair statement...Mike seems to have an axe to grind...

Understandable...I was once a Porsche loyalist.

What color is Dr Jekyll? Prussian Blue? or midnight? or ????

Dr. Jekyll is dark blue (code 347).

For the Boss, I was thinking a matte black wrap from this company. I have no affiliation to them.

VINYL STYLES

Opinions?

matte black is kind of 2008. neat look, but in my opinion, a bit played out.

Yep...played out. Besides, I love the blue. Blue & Green...love 'em both. Maybe just remove the vinyl hocky stick stripes, have the hood & roof repainted? Pretty simple to order the vinyl stripes should you wish to return to the "boss" look...

I've been thinking about one in the gold color with the racing seats. What kind of deals are there on the Boss? I'm not in any rush, maybe I'll wait until the end of the year to pick one up for a few grand off.

Good luck. They are a limited numbers car, even the standard Boss....but the standard Boss will be made in the 2013 model year. Many are hoping the dealers will begin selling at sticker then.

Only certain dealers are slated to get them...for example, the dealership closest to me can't order one. I asked...