Could California suck even more?

[patssle]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Just turned my a/c on last night for the first time this year. S'posed to be 100 today, but that's comfy with 8% humidity. Sure is nice to only pay $1500 a year in prop. taxes for a house that would cost $1 million in SoCal, but was a fraction of that here. Gonna swim in my pool again tonight.

Texas is the same way (except for the heat/humidity part). Extremely cheap housing and cost of living. Property taxes may be a tad higher but we don't have a state income tax.

And people from the north-east, California, and Florida are all moving to Texas.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by patssle

Texas is the same way (except for the heat/humidity part). Extremely cheap housing and cost of living. Property taxes may be a tad higher but we don't have a state income tax.

And people from the north-east, California, and Florida are all moving to Texas.

Why not? A friend from college (from PA), single girl in her mid 30s, sold her house for 700+k in the city. Moved to TX, bought a new home with a small ranch and a couple of condos on the side of town as rentals. she's got income with no mortgage payments. make your money in CA and spend it somewhere else.

[JavaBrewer]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Sure is nice to only pay $1500 a year in prop. taxes for a house that would cost $1 million in SoCal, but was a fraction of that here. Gonna swim in my pool again tonight.

$1M...really? Not bashing your home (I'm sure it's nice) but I bet I could cut that number by 60%+ and have you in a similar home & neighborhood that is 15 minutes or less to the ocean. As nostatic mentioned in his home search thread SoCal is comprised of many housing markets. A couple streets in either direction makes a huge difference in price. I was in San Antonio TX last year and looked at some homes that were similar quality to mine and found the delta in purchase price to be relatively small...like $150K. Granted they were on larger lots...like 1-2 acre vs 15K ft/sq but that is just another trade off.

Granted many of your toys are illegal here anyway. Enjoy your pool - sounds nice. Wife and I are going on a date this Friday evening to Del Mar to watch the sunset with a glass of wine.

[widebody911]

Originally Posted by look 171

I am still puzzled. 9 out of my 10 neighbors are from the east cost. they are all professionals and can think on their own just like many of us here. Why are they still here if this place suck that bad? maybe they know something you don't know Romad? I just don't understand all the dislike about CA, but they want to come here to visit and drive our p car roads and go to our cars and coffee.

How come there are not too many(none that I have seen) b!tch posts about other states by the people from CA? We all know how bad they can be.

Emigration is the most sincere form of flattery.

[emcon5]

Good news, we are number 48!

NY and NJ are even more Effed up than we are: Freedom in the 50 States | Mercatus

[HardDrive]

Originally Posted by speeder

In Michigan, you can probably burn your house down legally.

In Detroit its encouraged.

[artplumber]

Originally Posted by widebody911

Emigration is the most sincere form of flattery.

Actually, IIRC there is a net outmigration from cali unless you are counting illegals

[Tim Hancock]

I never intend to move from my "home" in Ohio farmland, but if I did, Arizona would be the winner hands down. I spent a short time there last fall and fell in love. I truly could not stand living in a housing development or city ever again. The loss of freedom to do what I wanted on my own land would feel like prison to me.

[Burnin' oil]

Originally Posted by emcon5

Good news, we are number 48!

NY and NJ are even more Effed up than we are: Freedom in the 50 States | Mercatus

Interesting to note that those States that claim to be progressive are the least free.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by widebody911

Emigration is the most sincere form of flattery.

Been there. Done that.

[G50-Love]

just stay down there, all of you

[Burnin' oil]

37 MILLION people can't be wrong.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by romad

I just heard this..is it true?

You can't build a house with a wood burning fireplace in California....a electric or gas is OK.

What is in the friggin water in this state, I can't imagine living under this kind of repression.

"Nobody know da troubles I seen, nobody know my sah-row ..."

[syncroid]

Originally Posted by look 171

when is that? We burn it to our heart's content. Burn it in the dead heat of summer if you like.

It must be a northern California thing. Here is their website.

Spare the Air
They literally have patrols out on spare the air days. If caught burning on a spare the air day, there are fines to be paid.

[strupgolf]

Originally Posted by tcar

Not just CA.... other states, too.

Many places in CO, Denver for example.

Albuquerque, NM...

Have inversion problems.


I have a friend who's parents had a house in Aspen, CO built Many years ago. Had 5 wood burning fireplaces.

When they sold the house, the guy that bought it tore it down and built a new house with 2 WB fireplaces.

He sold the rights to the other 3 fireplaces for $100k to $150k EACH.

You can't get a permit for a new FP there, but you can use the rights to an old one.

That is insane. Aspen Co. no less. I can't imagine this happening, but yes it does. My BIL just remodeled a house in Cal. built in the early 1900's, and yes, they were told no WB fireplaces.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by mossguy

Too many people, too many fires, too many inversion layers.

There is too much of something here but it isn't on your list, and I can't say what it is without sending this thread to PARF!

[emcon5]

Originally Posted by Burnin' oil

37 MILLION people can't be wrong.

No, but the numbnuts they elect sure can. And as long as the folks in LA and the Bay Area blindly vote "D" without paying attention, it will continue.

So we get mandated motion sensors in private bathrooms, but no budget.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by strupgolf

That is insane. Aspen Co. no less. I can't imagine this happening, but yes it does. My BIL just remodeled a house in Cal. built in the early 1900's, and yes, they were told no WB fireplaces.

It depends what and how extensive the remodel is. when we get into a major remodel, I fight and listen to what the owner's needs are and arm wrestle the architects on such subject. We keep wood burning fireplaces on most remodels. Including the house down the street.

[5String43]

Native Californian here - my wife/sweetie, too. We pretty much like the place just like it is, though admittedly there are a few things I might change, should I be granted the power.

As for fireplaces, we burn our fireplace a whole lot every winter using wood from the family almond groves - hasn't been possible to cut wood in the local forests, though I used to do that too. Dunno about building a new fireplace. But so far, here in the Lost Angeles area, there seem to be few restrictions.

[look 171]

Fire places have to be frame out with lumber and line with a flue. No longer ca we build masonry fire place like we did 60 years ago due to earthquake codes.