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svandamme 06-17-2011 03:23 PM

So to do list :

- Got to store, pick out gun, fondle it while trying not to drool to much, pay 30%, get serial for application http://www.mde.state.md.us/programs/.../CheckMark.gif


- get certificate from gun club, that i'm a regular shooter http://www.mde.state.md.us/programs/.../CheckMark.gif
this sunday when the club secretary is @ the range

- get sign off from city hall, that i don't have any criminal history http://www.mde.state.md.us/programs/.../CheckMark.gif

already requested, should have it by monday

- medical sign off from my MD, that i'm fit and sane enough for guns http://www.mde.state.md.us/programs/.../CheckMark.gif

tuesday, work from home, then go to the MD for his signature

- fill in the forms, send em over to Bruges http://www.mde.state.md.us/programs/.../CheckMark.gif

- wait for the gubmint to get back to me, must be within 4 months http://www.mde.state.md.us/programs/.../CheckMark.gif


- Pay my 92,72 euro's http://www.mde.state.md.us/programs/.../CheckMark.gif

- The Fuzz makes a house call to check if i don't run a methlab or whatnot

- Pass theoretical test, about gun laws http://www.mde.state.md.us/programs/.../CheckMark.gif



- Pass the practical test , supervised by the fuzz, safe handling test
(i've seen every episode of The A-team, Full Metal Jacket, Platoon and Magnum PI : piece of cake)

- Drive 180 clicks, pickup The Precious, grab a brick of .45 ball, some lubicrant, and a lockable case, drive 180 clicks back home
( i did it in 1hour 15 minutes today, i had the Captital H&A in Hauling Ass fully covered)

- Strip and lube The Precious

- Go to the range and consume the marriage.




That's what needs to happen to get a gun in Belgium... And that's probably one of the easier countries in the EU, Holland is worse, France only allows certain non military calibers, UK i think is i think near impossible except for hunting , and even then.. (maybe a brit can chime in on that)

Bill Douglas 06-17-2011 07:15 PM

Here in New Zealand...

Join pistol club.

Attend at least a dozen times over six months.

Pass handling tests and oral tests - easy as they want you to pass.

During that 6 months they evaluate you as a suitable club member, not a wanabe gangsta.

Get form from pistol club, give to police, they give you a procurement form.

Yay, buy the gun.

Take the gun to police who view it check SNs etc and register it.

After that you need to maintain a pistol club membership and attend at least 6 times a year.

Or get a collectors license and not use the gun as a shooter.

Plus we have other rules like no carrying the gun around in the glove box. You have to be on your way to or from a pistol shooting range.

But, anyone over 16 can pass a simple test and buy as many rifles and shotguns as you wish. Even schoolboys are allowed .50BMGs. Also there is no register of rifles and shotguns here so you can buy and sell to whoever you wish as long as they show you a gun license.

Jim Bremner 06-17-2011 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 6085836)
So to do list :

- get certificate from gun club, that i'm a regular shooter
this sunday when the club secretary is @ the range

- get sign off from city hall, that i don't have any criminal history
already requested, should have it by monday

- medical sign off from my MD, that i'm fit and sane enough for guns
tuesday, work from home, then go to the MD for his signature

- fill in the forms, send em over to Bruges
Wednesday morning

- wait for the gubmint to get back to me, must be within 4 months
Rest of the month, July , August, September?, October?

- The Fuzz makes a house call to check if i don't run a methlab or whatnot

- Pass theoretical test, about gun laws

- Pass the practical test , supervised by the fuzz, safe handling test
(i've seen every episode of The A-team, Full Metal Jacket, Platoon and Magnum PI : piece of cake)

- Drive 180 clicks, pickup The Precious, grab a brick of .45 ball, some lubicrant, and a lockable case, drive 180 clicks back home
( i did it in 1hour 15 minutes today, i had the Captital H&A in Hauling Ass fully covered)

- Strip and lube The Precious>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MOST OF US " YANKS" STAY DRESSED WHEN WE LUBE THE PISTOL> YOU EURO DUDES ARE THE FREAKY!

- Go to the range and consume the marriage.







That's what needs to happen to get a gun in Belgium... And that's probably one of the easier countries in the EU, Holland is worse, France only allows certain non military calibers, UK i think is i think near impossible except for hunting , and even then.. (maybe a brit can chime in on that)



Get your 1911 as deep into the web of your hand as you can.

HHI944 06-17-2011 09:00 PM

Wow, really makes me appreciate SC. When I want to buy a gun:
Go in and point at what I want to buy
Hand over cash
Fill out ATF form with CWP #
Leave with gun


Although there's usually a lot of BSin and 'Oooooh, pretty, lemme see that one!' in between.

svandamme 06-18-2011 06:12 AM

Aw Jim, only now noticed you edit in my todo list.... LMAO :D:D

Jim Bremner 06-18-2011 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 6086661)
Aw Jim, only now noticed you edit in my todo list.... LMAO :D:D


Slick huh?SmileWavy

Vintage Racer 06-19-2011 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HHI944 (Post 6086344)
Wow, really makes me appreciate SC. When I want to buy a gun:
Go in and point at what I want to buy
Hand over cash
Fill out ATF form with CWP #
Leave with gun.

It's the same in GA, but we call it a GWCL.

I pointed at one yesterday. :D

The shop had just taken it in on a trade. It's about 10 years old and never been fired. It still had the original Colt-factory oil in it. It's cleaned and ready to go to the range tomorrow.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...aR/colt45e.jpg

I always carry one of my Colt 1911s:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...aR/colt45f.jpg

Range:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...obraR/SSGC.jpg

Jim Bremner 06-19-2011 10:43 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1308505347.jpg


This is on my want list!:cool:

svandamme 06-19-2011 11:18 AM

next on my want list would be a loaded M1a
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1308507707.gif

HHI944 06-19-2011 12:33 PM

http://www.wilsoncombat.com/wallpapers/bw-001-800.jpg

Something like this will probably be my next 1911

dtxscott 06-19-2011 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 6088502)
next on my want list would be a loaded M1a
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1308507707.gif


You have great taste! I've got an M1A in the SOCOM configuration. It is a really fun gun.

azasadny 06-19-2011 03:46 PM

Here's one of my 1911's...
 
This is the M1911A1 Remington Rand that I re-Parkerized a few weeks ago...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1308523540.jpg

Jim Bremner 06-19-2011 04:00 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1308524331.jpg


Mine has the ss barrel but no flash hider. I can't have one in California ( a muzzle brake is ok)

svandamme 06-19-2011 10:21 PM

Belgian law is al to like Cali, no flash hiders allowed either, Brakes ok.
same wih the magazines, i think 20 is verboten, 10 is ok.
No biggie, they are bolt on and old M14 flash hides are just bolt-on, right?As are old M14 magazines which can be found a collectors.

Jim Bremner 06-19-2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 6089330)
Belgian law is al to like Cali, no flash hiders allowed either, Brakes ok.
same wih the magazines, i think 20 is verboten, 10 is ok.
No biggie, they are bolt on and old M14 flash hides are just bolt-on, right?As are old M14 magazines which can be found a collectors.

You'll need the flash hider wrench to do the job. My flash hider is kept 6 miles away from my house.

svandamme 06-19-2011 10:39 PM

that makes you a flash hider hider or what?

Jim Bremner 06-19-2011 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 6089344)
that makes you a flash hider hider or what?

Why yes it does. It's a paper weight at my Dad's house

svandamme 06-21-2011 12:03 AM

All the papers have been aquired, signed off and sent by registred mail to the authorothaaaaay. http://www.mde.state.md.us/programs/.../CheckMark.gif

jerryw 06-21-2011 01:34 PM

Just saw this thread (a little late) but the BHP (P35's) are available in .40 S&W - more powerful than 9mm but not the full boat of a .45

You can also buy a 9mm barrel for the .40 to allow 2 calibres for the one gun

BlueSkyJaunte 06-21-2011 02:06 PM

While the GP35/BHP has a grand history behind it, IMHO they don't shoot as nicely "out of the box" as a 1911. The magazine disconnect and the long trigger reset make for a much less satisfying shooting experience. Not to say they aren't fun. All pistols are fun, in some way or another. :D

Congrats on the paperwork, Stijn. Red tape like that is reserved for such "nasty" things as short barreled rifles and sound suppressors, where I live.


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