porch project!!

[speeder]

Amazing that someone could just randomly pick that expression w/o having a clue to its meaning, never having heard it before. I mean, what are the chances?

[look 171]

Originally Posted by speeder

Amazing that someone could just randomly pick that expression w/o having a clue to its meaning, never having heard it before. I mean, what are the chances?

I think its regional? I haven't heard it before and it doesn't sound like its use here much.

[sc_rufctr]

The first time I heard this term was in the movie "Monsters Ball"... Monster's Ball (2001) - IMDb

It was used by the character "Buck Grotowski" (Peter Boyle), Father of "Hank Grotowski" (Billy Bob Thornton).

Yes it's a racist comment but it's not a common term and that's not how it's been used here.

[widgeon13]

to be PC, I think car 311 meant to type "porsche monkey" so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and moving the "Fuch" on.

Jeez, you guy can fight over anything.

[Geronimo '74]

Originally Posted by car 311

Maybe he just mixed up his animals and meant to say 'porch DOG'...

(as long as it is not spelled 'dawg' it is not an insult, even if the dog is clearly not white...)

Nice porch.

[A930Rocket]

Never heard the term.

How bout them Dawgz! Go UGA! Woof! Woof!

Quote de car 311

Maybe he just mixed up his animals and meant to say 'porch DOG'...



(as long as it is not spelled 'dawg' it is not an insult, even if the dog is clearly not white...)



Nice porch.

[Hugh R]

Never heard the term before either, but suspected what it was before I googled it. As was said earlier, don't use the work "Cracker" either.

[DanielDudley]

Another thread gone hopelessly off topic due to poor choice of phrasing.

Only Tim Allen could put his foot deeper in his mouth...

Oh wait, he is a Mustang Guy...

[Zeke]

In before this gets closed.

You guys better ban the term "monkey roll." It's offensive.

[Embraer]

just get a lawn jockey and put him out front and be done with it. or....put a couple of these on your porch and call it a day. they're obviously PC enough to be sold to children....




ya know what? Im white and me and my buddies used to call each other porch monkies growing up. we [I]knew what the term meant, but we didn't care....we sat on my buddy's porch on main street in our small and just sat on there during the summer. pretty much everynight to cool off, drink pepsi, make funn of stuff, and just be goofy.

don't get me started on my white buddy, from south africa,....and his job application debacles.

[juanbenae]

thanks for the understand gentlemen. being born and raised in the bay area, a very liberal area as i noted i was not aware of the negative history of the word. not well travel either i guess. we've like others have stated have used it to discribe passing time on the porch for years. shame on us.

as i said before, and to paul now specifically sorry to have offended.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr

The first time I heard this term was in the movie "Monsters Ball"... Monster's Ball (2001) - IMDb

It was used by the character "Buck Grotowski" (Peter Boyle), Father of "Hank Grotowski" (Billy Bob Thornton).

Yes it's a racist comment but it's not a common term and that's not how it's been used here.

Some of you "lighten up Francis" guys should really catch this movie. You'd love it. No PC language from that guy.

[ninelevenick]

Hey Car,

Did you put a roof on that too? Please post photos if you did. Thanks.

[KarlCarrera]

Originally Posted by E38Driver

Your deputy inspector looks like he put in a full day and is tired. ;-D

But....with out that positive re-enforcement, and can do attitude, the porch may not have turned out as great as it did!!

Looks excellent.

I thought I might see another version of the "Trunk Monkey" as well. Funny commercials!

Karl
88 Targa

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by Schrup

The name has a personal meaning to me, I saw some really ugly shyt set off by it. The expression pisses me off, I have not attacked the OP, I'm entitled to my opinion. I don't come here to look for trouble, but feel free to pile on.

Schrup meant no harm... and no offence was taken by the OP, only to inform about the historical meaning of the term. Why do so many of you see "free speech" as a one way street?

[juanbenae]

Originally Posted by Snipernick

Hey Car,

Did you put a roof on that too? Please post photos if you did. Thanks.

there was a trellis id built some years ago over it. its got that corrugated fiberglass panels on it to keep the porch, errr i mean area in front of the door dry during rain events.













and by the way cliff (vash), ive offered up my carpentry services to you more times than i can count... at least as many times as you've been down this way to help me with projects... offer is still good, i come with truck o tools even

t

[cel]

Political Correctness: The Scourge of Our Times

Agustin Blazquez with the collaboration of Jaums Sutton
Monday, April 8, 2002

Does anyone know the origins of Political Correctness? Who originally developed it and what was its purpose?

I looked it up. It was developed at the Institute for Social Research in Frankfurt, Germany, which was founded in 1923 and came to be known as the "Frankfurt School." It was a group of thinkers who pulled together to find a solution to the biggest problem facing the implementers of communism in Russia.

The problem? Why wasn't communism spreading?

Their answer? Because Western Civilization was in its way.

What was the problem with Western Civilization? Its belief in the individual, that an individual could develop valid ideas. At the root of communism was the theory that all valid ideas come from the effect of the social group of the masses. The individual is nothing.

And they believed that the only way for communism to advance was to help (or force, if necessary) Western Civilization to destroy itself. How to do that? Undermine its foundations by chipping away at the rights of those annoying individuals.

One way to do that? Change their speech and thought patterns by spreading the idea that vocalizing your beliefs is disrespectful to others and must be avoided to make up for past inequities and injustices.

And call it something that sounds positive: "Political Correctness."

Inspired by the brand new communist technique, Mao, in the 1930s, wrote an article on the "correct" handling of contradictions among the people. "Sensitive training" – sound familiar? – and speech codes were born.

In 1935, after Hitler came to power, the Frankfurt School moved to New York City, where they continued their work by translating Marxism from economic to cultural terms using Sigmund Freud's psychological conditioning mechanisms to get Americans to buy into Political Correctness. In 1941, they moved to California to spread their wings.

But Political Correctness remains just what it was intended to be: a sophisticated and dangerous form of censorship and oppression, imposed upon the citizenry with the ultimate goal of manipulating, brainwashing and destroying our society.



The same was true in the former Soviet Union and the former satellite countries. The same continues in the remaining communist world.

It's nothing new. The U.S. media must know that, so why don't they openly report that fact instead of misleading the public? Perhaps that is the reason why the American people are so uneducated about the Cuban tragedy and acted regrettably during the Elian Gonzalez affair.

The PC U.S.

With profound dismay, I have seen how the scourge of Political Correctness has taken hold in the U.S. It is very well entrenched in our educational system, at scientific, religious and community levels, the media, the workplace and even our government.

It is changing the American society from within, and the citizens of this nation are increasingly censoring themselves and losing their freedom of speech out of fear of Political Correctness repression.

It is the nature of Western Civilization to be civilized – respectful of others and concerned with correcting injustices. We don't need Political Correctness to make us think we are not civilized on our own and must have our thoughts and words restricted.

In December 2001, in Kensington, Md., an annual firefighters Santa Claus festivity to light the Christmas tree was objected to by two families. The city council, in the name of Political Correctness, voted to ban Santa from the parade. Fortunately, due to citizen outcry, the decision was reversed in the end and many people protested by dressing up as Santa.

Logically and respectfully, how can one person's benign icon be objectionable to the point of banishment? Offer to add other people's icons. Make it a broader celebration. That's the Perfectly Correct American way.

The rulers of Political Correctness reach absurd levels when they refer to the betrayal of America by the spies Julius and Ethel Rosenberg – executed in 1953 – as "non-traditional patriotism"!

We see shameful situations created in our schools and universities in America that have fallen prey to Political Correctness. Some professors, students and publications are being attacked for expressing a point of view that differs from that imposed by a fanatical far left, under the guise of Political Correctness.

In schools and workplaces we see that "diversity" has degenerated into reverse discrimination, where often the less qualified are admitted and the incompetent cannot be fired. We have seen characters like Rev. Jesse Jackson shamelessly blackmailing and threatening to boycott entire corporations if they don't hire those selected by him or simply make "donations" to his organizations.

The Double Standard Emerges

Our Constitution requires the separation of church and state, which has always discouraged our public education system from teaching religion. However, in December 2001, while Christmas cards, symbols and decorations were being objected to for the first time in American public schools in Georgia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Minnesota and Oregon, in an elementary school in Texas, a girl was allowed to give to her classmates an overview and show a video about her Muslim religion.

And in January 2002, a public middle school in San Luis Obispo, Calif., had its students pretend to be warriors fighting for Islam. Another school near Oakland, Calif., also encouraged 125 seventh-grade students to dress up in Muslim robes for a three-week course on Islam.

This arbitrary double standard was applied in the name of Political Correctness following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

According to Ellen Sorokin's "No Founding Fathers?" published by the Washington Times on its front page on Jan. 28, 2002, even our Founding Fathers have fallen victim to the travesty. The article says of the New Jersey Department of Education's history standards,

"The latest revisions to the state standards have disappointed educators across the country, who said the board's exclusion of the Founding Fathers' names is 'Political Correctness to the nth degree.' "

Sorokin points out that "the standards specifically note that students should identify slavery, the Holocaust and modern Iraq as examples in which 'people have behaved in cruel and inhumane ways.' " Conveniently, communism is absent from that short list.

In another article by Sorokin, published by the Washington Times on March 10, "Report Blames Anti-Americanism on College Teachers," she presents two examples of upcoming courses for next spring and fall. They are " 'The Sexuality of Terrorism' at University of California at Hayward; and 'Terrorism and the Politics of Knowledge' at UCLA, a class that, according to its course description, examines 'America's record of imperialistic adventurism.' "

Recently, a historic photograph of the New York firefighters raising the American flag over the ruins of the World Trade Center was going to be made into a sculpture as a memorial.

But history's revisionists used Political Correctness to dictate that other minority faces replace some of the faces in the historical photograph! Fortunately, in the end that didn't fly either, due to the outcry of firefighters and the public.

The Goal of the PC Dictators

For people with the background and firsthand experience of living inside a totalitarian communist society, the tilt and goal of the dictators of Political Correctness in America are obvious.

The beneficiaries in the end will be the fanatic believers in the totalitarian state, who, in spite of the dismal failure of communism and the 100 million people exterminated pursuing that criminal system, have not given up.

Political and religious fanatics, as demonstrated by the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and the subsequent war in Afghanistan, are extremely dangerous in today's world.

All citizens who cherish liberty must reject the scourge of Political Correctness. Freedom of speech must be preserved in America if we are to continue to be free.

[Rick Lee]

A little Larry David to lighten the mood.

[speeder]

And of course that has nothing to do with what's being discussed re: the title of this thread. But you knew this.

You might find this hard to believe but I was showing Pelican to a friend 2 days ago for the first time. By crazy coincidence, he is half asian/half black. When I saw the title, "Porch Monkey", near the top of the page, I immediately closed the page and made an awkward statement about needing to run along. I think he saw it but not sure. I didn't know what the thread contained and sure as hell wasn't going to open it and find out right there with him staring at my screen. I'd just gotten through telling him about the cool people here. I was fking pissed. That is by far the worst thread title I've seen here ever. It means nigger, period.

Edited - personal attack removed . -Z-man.

[Rick Lee]

I guess the mood has not been lightened. The professionally offended are in rare form today.