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Matching numbers means EVERYTHING...and it is worth saving with or without...but those matching NOs mean $$$$$...
You practically don't even need a car to build one of those...EVERYTHING IS REPRODUCED...
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I had a 66 Coupe 427/425 HP matching No. car....at one time
U can bet the Corvette Junkies are gona be all over this one... 66 was the first year for 4 wheel discs and that makes it up there with the 67's..67's were the last of the mid years so they go forrrr morrrre???? I like the 327 solid lifter cars....they is worth having...
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oh - value after restoration - if numbers matching - in the $65,000 range (depending on if that is a hi-pony engine)... not matching - $35,000 or so...
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Personally, I don't think the numbers matching piece of this will mean a whole lot. I doubt this one will ever be a candidate for a 100pt Bloomington Gold restoration. It's not that rare or special. It would, however, make a great driver with a nice restoration.
There's about $80K difference in cost between a nice driver's restoration and a Bloomington Gold restoration. And numbers matching won't matter for the guy who wants something good looking to enjoy his nostalgic hobby
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It won't matter to the hobby guy - but when he goes to sell it - it is all about the numbers - even if the hobby guy who does most of the resto himself, when he goes to sell it - he will see almost double the money if the numbers match. It seems like in American muscle - these days it is all about the numbers...
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Auction bill says it's a 327CI 350 HP
Doesn't says anything about matching numbers
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Sidepipe car--that's cool.
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Well.......at least it was a nice day for a drive.
Anyone care to guess what this sold for?
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$12,000
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Higher.
Not matching numbers either.
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19 years and 17k posts...
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$15k is my guess...
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Getting closer Art.
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You used to be able to buy a bare cast iron block from the dealer with the number boss blank. In today's world it would be nothing to duplicate the factory numbers on the block. And I don't think anyone is going to do an acid test even on a block that is shaved and renumbered.
If you go to sell at an auction, they do some authenticating but they aren't going to go to the extent of an acid test. You have to sign that "to your knowledge" that the numbers are authentic. I doubt any collectors go to the trouble either. Now, the buyer of this POS might eventually either establish that the numbers match or make them so. All of that being said, it is my learning that GM did not keep records as Porsche did in this time period, i.e, the number of the chassis and the number of the engine installed in that chassis. GM, AFAIK, can tell you what year a motor is but not what specific chassis it went in, just the model. If that is in fact the case, it would be a lot easier to provide a correct block legitimately for a lot of models. For the rarer production units it becomes more difficult. This Corvette is just a production line model with a no name motor other than being a '65 or '66 casting by the casting number and possibly followed by a "Y" back that early. Body serial numbers began appearing about 3 years later. I'm pretty sure there is a way to determine if a particular chassis was a 327 or a 427 but in '66 getting a 327 to match does not seem to be a big deal. 350 CI engines came out in '67 but the '66 Vette could be had with the new 427. We didn't see the 454 until '70. |
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Well, that's fine. Someone might flip the car and make a little less that I presumed was in the cards and the sellers can drink champagne in celebration for hitting a small lotto. Once under competent restoration, the car will be at the selling price plus a minimum of $60,000 whether it be paid out, or hours invested, or a combination of both.
If not a competent restoration, a disservice will be done to the car and it STILL will take a minimum of 60K to make it right. |
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Milt, those cars had the last digits of the VIN stamped in the blocks and transmissions.
>15k is nuts for that car if the numbers aren't even matching. Sounds like some people got into a bidding war. G |
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It sold for 18,500
Far more than i would have believed.
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But since I didn't stay at the Holiday Inn, I'll tell you I used to work at a Corvette only dismantler when I was around 19 and the cars we are talking about were new. Given the hanky panky that was going on in those days, I thought I knew what numbers were traceable vs. those that weren't so much. I quit 2 weeks before the owners were arrested. |
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I don't stay current on values for these but god do I love them. They have real value because more people want them than there are cars.
A Corvette Stingray roadster like that is on my short list of cars that I'd like to own. There has never been a time when I did not want one. My favorite would be a 327/375 hp 4-speed w/ four wheel disc brakes. Cops will pull you over just to talk about the car, they all love Corvettes for some reason. |
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I can remember hearing way back in the '80s about the problem with counterfeit serial #s and documents on 'vettes as they climbed in value and became very collectible. If I bought one, I would go big and spend the money for a top-drawer car but I'd authenticate the schit out of it first.
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