Fire Season

[RWebb]

Rising temperatures and changing precipitation patterns associated with climate change are likely to increase wildfire levels in California and the West in coming decades, according to a new study.

The research, published Tuesday in the journal Ecosphere, underscores the need for Californians to learn how to coexist with wildfire. "Fire is not going anywhere," said Max Moritz, a UC Cooperative Extension wildfire specialist and the paper’s lead author. “We need to map out where in the landscape it's safe to live and where it's not."

Scientists led by a UC Berkeley team studied 16 global climate models to develop a projection of global wildfire patterns. Although the forecast for the next few decades was inconclusive for about half of the planet, the models were in general agreement that by the end of the century, much of the world will experience more fire than it did in the past decade.

California and the West are expected to experience that jump sooner, with fire frequency rising over the next 30 years.

- LA Times

[wcc]

It's probably not well known but MI has a few annual forest fires lately. This year a bunch has burned in the UP and Norther MI. But they'll probably never make national news. They're significant here anyways, at least to me....

[911boost]

I am only a few miles away from the fire Burning in northern colorado right now.

It sucks.

[Evans, Marv]

Here where I live in So Cal, we had fires in '03 & '07. The '03 fire burned up to about 100 yds. or less from where I built our house. The possibility of fire is why I keep a good defense perimeter and went with the type of exterior finish I did. I'm in hopes the last two major fires burned up enough fuel, another really big one won't get a good start for some years. These things are going to be more & more a fact of life.

[crustychief]

This thread can go to PARF quickly.

[Hugh R]

I keep a 200 foot fire perimeter, more or less. I also have fire insurance at $250/sq.ft.

[ODDJOB UNO]

howz a 1/2 mile away from our places in gila national forest? just got back from there. not good. not contained.


or howz bouts father in law getting wiped out totally as in TOAST GONE WASTED BURNT FUBAR'D during COMPLEX fire a few years ago. entire home and 9 vintage vehicles GONE!


you do NOT HAVE A FOOKING CLUE what a wildfire means, until you have faced one down(or 2). they suck royal donkey dongs in spades.


my opinions about wildland firefighters aka boots on the ground, is very high.


my opinions about the center for biological diversity/tree huggers/setting aside pristine country for "wilderness" and then halt logging, and then ALLOW bill-yons of board feet of lumber to go up in freeking smoke despite economy stumbling along and lumber mills sitting idle freeking really pisses me off to NO END!


welcome to the "new" forest service mgmt of YOUR RESOURCES!


yep lets let the "wilderness" burn to hell and then cross into national forest and then threaten communities/lives.


if you have never visited a INCIDENT COMMAND or a helo base or a fixed wing slurry bomber base.................realize its DEAD SER-I-ASS BIZZNESS!



oh by the way................after the fire.............ya get to deal with BIG AZZD FLOODS for an encore.


30ft minimum defensive fire swath cut around any all homes.................MINIMUM!



and even then when they get roaring like whitewater/baldy complex fire, you get to deal with "SPOTTING" 2-3 miles forward of actual fire line.



wanna JOB??????????????????????



stimulate economy?



join a wildland fire team! they cant get enuff people now.


POS "experimental" slurry bombers i wouldnt even dream of getting into. ancient isnt the word. already (2) have crashed and one with twin fatalities.


go to youtube and look up "whitewater/baldy complex fire. punch in bae 146 jet slurry drop.



DC-10 slurry bomber just arrived at gateway airport in mesa az. bad azzz isnt the word. 100yard wide and (1) mile LONG swath of slurry can be dropped .



C-130's coming from wyoming for ft collins fire in colorado.


bored? go to inciweb.com and pick a fire and watch it grow!


on our trip over to new messiko we drove thru 7 active or inactive FIRES!


BILL-YONS if not GA-ZILLIONS of BOARD FEET LUMBER UP IN SMOKE!



thank you azzhole treehuggers!



and yes the GILA TROUT is NOW REALLY REALLY REALLY ENDANGERED!

[911boost]

Taken out of my front door on Sunday. Its now around 46,000 acres and 10% contained....

[sammyg2]

These same experts have been saying for decades that temperatures are rising, but the truth is they were wrong.

They said the ice caps would be melted, glaciers would be gone, sea levels would rise and flood all the sea-side cities, poloar bears would die off, all sorts of bad stuff was supposed to have already happened according to them.
But then reality had to rear it's ugly head.
There has been no appreciable rise in global temperaure in the past 15 years.
They took a natural and temporary trend and tried to use it to predict a long term change and were motivated by $$$$$$$$$ and a certain political faction's desire to manipulate and brainwash people into changing their lifestyles to suit the people who know what's good for the rest of us.
Whether they were just FOS or flat out lied, they have no more credibility (as if they ever did.)

[sammyg2]

BTW I remember several years ago we were having way more fires in so Cal than normal, and one of our fellow pelican posters suggested that people shouldn't live in those fire-prone places, we're just asking for it and it's our fault and the rest of the country shouldn't have to pay for our irresponsibility.

[RWebb]

yes, rural dwellers are being subsidized

keep your PARF in PARF please sammy - you are (as usual) completely wrong about every faux fact in your 1st post

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by Hugh R

I keep a 200 foot fire perimeter, more or less. I also have fire insurance at $250/sq.ft.

this sounds good - see if the fire dept. will come out and do an assessment -- you live on a slope don't you?

IIRC, you fed them pizza, so that may help -- around here, they do it for free

also, keep your firewood away from the house

[Flieger]

I see some people just don't understand what "global warming" actually refers to and make fancy graphs that mean little.